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This is in my cat food and I heard it is used in what they use for euthanizing animals and is not fit for human consumption and can cause health problems. What do you know about it? menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity)
post #2 of 12
From some quick googling, it is my understanding that it is a synthetic form of Vitamin K.
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post #4 of 12
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Wow thank you! I love Mordy's site she is on the dog forum I go to daily. I can't believe I didn't think to look there. I have to see is Felidae has that, if not I'm gonna switch to that. Thanks again!

and do you think it could be causing my cats eyes to water when he eats his food because the site says this: "causes irritation of skin and mucous membranes" and "causes allergic reactions and eczema"
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Right now we're feeding our cats Nutrience, but I'm switching for the same reason. I'm looking at Felidae as well. They do not vitamin K whatsoever in their ingredients. I've heard that "alfalfa" is a natural source of vitamin K, which they do list.

On top of that I sent an email to Nutrience asking why the ingredient is in there when it is considered unsafe for humans and has already been taken out as an ingredient in many top dog foods...
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It is a catch 22 ... i will use a food with menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of vitamin K activity) if it is at the bottom of the ingrediants ... I have seen it like first or second on the vitaminthat I wont ... Alfalfa is a HIGH allergen and for some not allergic it can upset tummys .... plus after it is cooked I would imagine some of the K is gone...
post #7 of 12
It seems like there are other good sources of Vitamin K as well though...

From the aforementioned link:

"Fish meals, liver and green plant supplements (e.g. alfalfa, kelp and other seaweed, nettle leaf, blue-green algae, spirulina) are rich sources of natural vitamin K."

It wasn't because of this particular reason, but this in general is why I don't mind feeding my cats food that contain meat by-products once in awhile. I know they get a decent dose of extra nutrients from organ meats like liver a few times a week.
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Originally Posted by wmarcello View Post
It seems like there are other good sources of Vitamin K as well though...

From the aforementioned link:

"Fish meals, liver and green plant supplements (e.g. alfalfa, kelp and other seaweed, nettle leaf, blue-green algae, spirulina) are rich sources of natural vitamin K."

It wasn't because of this particular reason, but this in general is why I don't mind feeding my cats food that contain meat by-products once in awhile. I know they get a decent dose of extra nutrients from organ meats like liver a few times a week.
I prefer to see "chicken liver", "beef liver", etc...over mystery items, IMO.

It's partially because of things like this that I prefer to feed a variety of brands and flavors/meats...with greatly varied ingredients I hopefully don't have to lose sleep at night over too much alfafa, too much of this, not enough of that. But I'm talking about canned food...which is a touchy subject these days.
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I prefer to see "chicken liver", "beef liver", etc...over mystery items, IMO.

It's partially because of things like this that I prefer to feed a variety of brands and flavors/meats...with greatly varied ingredients I hopefully don't have to lose sleep at night over too much alfafa, too much of this, not enough of that. But I'm talking about canned food...which is a touchy subject these days.
Me too. I know I mentioned that I don't mind seeing some "meat by-products" on some of the cats' foods, but more specifically I meant I don't mind seeing ingredients like "chicken by-products", "turkey by-products", etc. Mystery animal is exactly that.
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Me too. I know I mentioned that I don't mind seeing some "meat by-products" on some of the cats' foods, but more specifically I meant I don't mind seeing ingredients like "chicken by-products", "turkey by-products", etc. Mystery animal is exactly that.
You do know what a by product can be ???

HEADS Feet Organs( including brain heart intestines) undeveloped eggs

I regularly feed organ two eat alot of raw but I dont serve the other stuff
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HEADS Feet Organs( including brain heart intestines) undeveloped eggs
Which is exactly what they would eat in the wild as well.
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Which is exactly what they would eat in the wild as well.
Ummm NOT exactly... if you want futher info please use my pm box as we are HYJACKING this thread
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