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post #1 of 21
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I just heard on the news that a local town here is considering cutting out all sports due to budget problems.

I can't believe that funding for schools has gotten so bad that now there is no music, no gym, no art, and now no sports. There are no physical or creative outlets left for kids in alot of schools and I think they are being robbed of a future because of it. Staying just on the topic of sports, alot of kids rely on it to not only keep them in shape, but to keep them healthy. Others hope that they will lead to scholarships someday. Not only that, but alot of schools get money FROM sports, and they'll suffer even more as a result of this. It's pretty outrageous considering that parents in this school already have to pay for their kids to play.
post #2 of 21
Just what we need, more kids with pent up, unreleased energy. Great
post #3 of 21
I wouldn't miss the "No Sports" and "No Gym", but I would hate to give up music and the arts.

I can't honestly say, I have never enjoyed sports, and I did everything I could do, to get out of Gym.
post #4 of 21
Hay that's really sad! I think that would be enough to make some parents put their kids in a different school. That's highly unfair to the children.
post #5 of 21
I don't know that they will be entirely cut, even though that's what's being reported. They will just make the parents pay out the nose for their kids to be on the team. There are so many kids and parents who depend on sports for scholarships to college that there would be a huge public outcry against it.
post #6 of 21
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
I don't know that they will be entirely cut, even though that's what's being reported. They will just make the parents pay out the nose for their kids to be on the team. There are so many kids and parents who depend on sports for scholarships to college that there would be a huge public outcry against it.
No they want to cut it outright. The parents already pay over $200 for the kids to play sports, whether it's once a year or multiple. They have to cut over $1M from the budget.
post #7 of 21
I think thats horrible. So many kids depend on sports- and I know for my brothers, and cousins- its their life. Its how they keep their grades up, its something that they LIVE for- and its a great way for the community to get together and show their kids support.
I think its really wrong!
post #8 of 21
They sold off a lot of schools playing fields under the current British government and now we wonder why our children are so fat
Sport is good for kids for health and social development
post #9 of 21
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Just what we need, more kids with pent up, unreleased energy. Great
that about sums it up. . i would have vbeen a really unhappy kid if i was not able to play sports and be in the band back in high school
post #10 of 21
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Originally Posted by fluffysimba View Post
Hay that's really sad! I think that would be enough to make some parents put their kids in a different school. That's highly unfair to the children.
Well, that's what they've been doing to music and art programs for literally decades now and barely anyone bats an eyelash at this point.

I'm not into sports...in fact, I resent them a little since historically, schools cut arts before they cut team sports, even though IMO arts are FAR more important to a kid's development than sports are (in IL gym is required K-12 by law, so it's not like we were all forced to be couch potatoes). But it's a shame when schools cut the very things kids look forward to.

Yet another thing we can thank the Bush dynasty for. There's that age old saying about how the pentagon should have to hold bake sales to function, just like public schools do.
post #11 of 21
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They sold off a lot of schools playing fields under the current British government and now we wonder why our children are so fat
Sport is good for kids for health and social development
Yeah and now they have houses built on them.
What I would like to know is what did they do with the money from the sale of (prime)land because the land is 'owned ' by the local authority.
We see the 'sale' in the audit reports but not where that money went....
Who's to say where the money went,It could have been spent on a lavish mayors
banquet for all we know because there is never any 'improvements' in the schools.



Hey Ronald?....Have ya heard whats happenin' in the Uk....

" Mc donalds Mc donalds....Kentucky fried chicken and a KFC"
post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by lionessrampant View Post
Well, that's what they've been doing to music and art programs for literally decades now and barely anyone bats an eyelash at this point.

I'm not into sports...in fact, I resent them a little since historically, schools cut arts before they cut team sports, even though IMO arts are FAR more important to a kid's development than sports are (in IL gym is required K-12 by law, so it's not like we were all forced to be couch potatoes). But it's a shame when schools cut the very things kids look forward to.

Yet another thing we can thank the Bush dynasty for. There's that age old saying about how the pentagon should have to hold bake sales to function, just like public schools do.
No one bats an eye at it because there seems to be more importance placed on athletes in this day and age. You might be able to write a song that will stand for all time and be the next Beethoven, but if you can run for 90 yards or throw a 110mph fast ball, or throw a basket from half court, people care about that more.

That's interesting, I've never heard the bake sale addage, but I did hear that Ted Kennedy makes some bitchin' cream puffs.
post #13 of 21
Great timing---being in the midst of the childhood obesity epidemic and all. I don't believe it will happen in all school districts. You just TRY to take high school football from any southern high school. They'll have to fight the whole town!
post #14 of 21
Fortunately, it doesn't cut gym as a whole, just interscholastic middle school sports, so they still are getting exercise, just not playing against other schools.

It is still a pity that it was even proposed, along with the cutting of all afterschool classes, but has been strongly opposed, so I doubt much will come of it
post #15 of 21
Let me guess: Swampscott?
post #16 of 21
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Great timing---being in the midst of the childhood obesity epidemic and all. I don't believe it will happen in all school districts. You just TRY to take high school football from any southern high school. They'll have to fight the whole town!
Took the words right out of my mouth Kel! It is counter-intuitive to remove sports from schools with childhood obesity on such a steady incline!!!

On the topic of removing the arts from schools....I was driving back to GA from my aunt's funeral on Monday and was listening to the Les Miserables soundtrack. I commented to my mom on what amazing contributions to society the likes of Webber and Rice and Boubil and Schonberg have made and how we would be void of such incredible entertainment had they not been exposed to the arts at a young age. Robbing children of these courses/outlets means robbing all of us of a future filled with great songs, shows, and artwork!
post #17 of 21
My God that is apalling!!!! I can't believe that in a world where we have such a high rate of child obesity, they are even contemplating this!!

For the kids whose after school activity revolves entirely around TV and games, sport at school is often the only exercise they get - even if they are 'forced' to do it by a teacher, at least it is getting them moving about.

Crazy!!!!
post #18 of 21
Personally, I wish they would ban ALL sports, not only in schools, but EVERYWHERE.

I wish they would support more artistic endeavors than sports. What in the world is good about sports? The only sport I have ever enjoyed watching is Ice Skating, and that seems a great deal MORE artistic than the sports that everyone wants to support. If there was NEVER another Football game, baseball game, basketball game, Soccer game, or any TEAM sport game from now on, I would be ONE HAPPY CAMPER.

It's time for people to place the value on plays, coffee houses, and musicals instead of sports. One can certainly support the kids in school by getting involved in artistic endeavors. Why sports, for crying out loud?

And because they haven't banned that dreaded gym class, the kids can exercise the obesity in gym, but I don't think a kid should be FORCED to take gym. Have them take a long walk instead of gym.
post #19 of 21
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
Personally, I wish they would ban ALL sports, not only in schools, but EVERYWHERE.
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It's time for people to place the value on plays, coffee houses, and musicals instead of sports. One can certainly support the kids in school by getting involved in artistic endeavors. Why sports, for crying out loud?
I think it is possible to value both sports and the arts. I love coffee houses, reading, graphics and art as well as musicals and plays, but I also like to spend Sunday watching football
post #20 of 21
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
Personally, I wish they would ban ALL sports, not only in schools, but EVERYWHERE.

I wish they would support more artistic endeavors than sports. What in the world is good about sports? The only sport I have ever enjoyed watching is Ice Skating, and that seems a great deal MORE artistic than the sports that everyone wants to support. If there was NEVER another Football game, baseball game, basketball game, Soccer game, or any TEAM sport game from now on, I would be ONE HAPPY CAMPER.

It's time for people to place the value on plays, coffee houses, and musicals instead of sports. One can certainly support the kids in school by getting involved in artistic endeavors. Why sports, for crying out loud?

And because they haven't banned that dreaded gym class, the kids can exercise the obesity in gym, but I don't think a kid should be FORCED to take gym. Have them take a long walk instead of gym.

I agree with everything you've said, Hope, and I'm coming from a lifetime of being shoved down to the bottom of the bin because I played flute, not football. When I won concerto comeptitions or went to IMEA or made all of these youth orchestras...did I get a pep assembly? That would be a big, fat NO! But when this one girl went to state for tennis, she got one. And I also had the total misfortune of going to high school with Candace Parker, who was apparently god's gift to women's basketball (although, I haven't heard her name mentioned in a couple years). I mean, I applaud the work ethic, but why sould they get all of the attention? And why did art programs get cut first? It would have made more sense to just pull back a little on everything if they were having serious budget problems. But god forbid a high school not have new football uniforms every year. Even if we had to eithre buy our own instruments (my very first flute cost $550 in 1993) or play on ones purchased in the 80's.

Slightly OT, but still mostly pertinent: the audiences at musicals are not dropping, I feel like I should state that flat out. They simply are doing fabulously, buoyed up by the fact that they draw more influence from pop music than ever before, and that's easy to listen to...doesn't require much effort or thinking or extended education. Orchestral and chamber music audiences, on the other hand, are in trouble. I'm willing to bet that 9 out of 10 TCS'ers haven't been to an instrumental concert this year, and that over half of you haven't been in your lives, unless it was a school field trip. That's not entirely your faults as consumers...why would you spend money on some foreign "high art" that you know nothing about? THis is where schools and educators and locales have a responsibility. The only way Beethoven and Mozart stay alive and keep getting played if is these parties EDUCATE and EXPOSE people to it. It needs to be accessibe both logistically and, quite frankly, intellectually.
post #21 of 21
Sports are important. Three of my classmates who played on our high school football team are now professional football players, and a couple more are on their way to the draft. I have played sports all my life, and there are things you learn on the field that you are not going to learn anywhere else. Yes, I whined about gym class but I'm still glad they made me do it when I go to the gym and don't look like a fool trying to figure out how to use the machines.

That and being a Buckeye, well, you can pry sports from my cold dead hand, and I'm pretty sure they're safe in my district. Heck, they just put Astroturf on our football field and resurfaced the tennis courts.

But, art and music and theatre are just as important. Frankly, schools that cut any of those are NOT doing their job. IMO, alot of districts just aren't good with money. Alot of urban districts, especially, that are notoriously poor or delapidated and close schools more and more often, actually have higher per-student expenditures than other schools. What the heck are they doing with all of the money!
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