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An atheist congressman speaks out

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I thought this was a tad interesting.

http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=29656
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As a Humanist myself, I applaud him for having the courage to "come out" - it's not an easy thing!
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It strikes me as odd that this group not only offered a $1000 "prize" (reward might be a better word) to ID an elected official who happens to be an atheist, but actually took out an ad in the Washington Post ($$$) to "congratulate" that official for his "stance"!!! Why all the fuss?

To me, this is a big "so what?" I don't care if this man's an atheist any more than I care that Joe Lieberman's Jewish, or Mitt Romney's a Mormon.
Why does this group feel the need to make a big deal over someone's personal decision?

We'll really be getting somewhere in this country the day that no one feels the need to point out the personal beliefs of people who hold political office.
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I think the 'big deal' is that (and I say this from an outsiders view) American politics seems to be more and more infuenced by religion
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We'll really be getting somewhere in this country the day that no one feels the need to point out the personal beliefs of people who hold political office.
I can't wait for that day! Who knows if it will happen in my lifetime, though
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I think the 'big deal' is that (and I say this from an outsiders view) American politics seems to be more and more infuenced by religion
It seems that way to me as well.
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hmm, i dont get what the big deal is. but i guess for some it would be hug thing.
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I don't care if he is or not.....as long as he doesn't try to silence those who DO believe! That's where I'll fight him.

He can choose not to believe, I can choose to believe, but don't you tell me I cannot talk about God.
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The big deal is that in certain states you can't hold public office if you are an atheist.
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As a Humanist myself, I applaud him for having the courage to "come out" - it's not an easy thing!
If you don't think it's a big deal, listen to someone who lives it. It isn't easy not being a mainstream religion, regardless of position.

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I think the 'big deal' is that (and I say this from an outsiders view) American politics seems to be more and more infuenced by religion
You got that right!

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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
I don't care if he is or not.....as long as he doesn't try to silence those who DO believe! That's where I'll fight him.

He can choose not to believe, I can choose to believe, but don't you tell me I cannot talk about God.
Why is that even a consideration? Has he proposed legislature to do so? (Not that it would pass!)

It's the radical minority of those non-mainstream religions that give everyone a bad name. Just like with the mainstream religions. Most don't care that you DO believe, just please don't force those beliefs and morals based solely on religious texts/interpretations on everyone.

The real reward would be for the highest ranking politician that is pagan or Wiccan. It seems like it's OK as long as you are mainstream, or don't believe at all.
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I think the 'big deal' is that (and I say this from an outsiders view) American politics seems to be more and more infuenced by religion

I wish that were true, and politics WERE influenced by good Christian values.

The dirty fighting and quest for power by politicians who SHOULD be putting their country first is disgusting to most Americans.
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If you don't think it's a big deal, listen to someone who lives it. It isn't easy not being a mainstream religion, regardless of position.
This is very true. I am from a deeply Roman Catholic family, so my "belief system" is something that I just don't talk about. My mom and dad and brother know, and a few of my close friends, but that's about it. I may think it's uncomfortable now when I'm sitting with my aunts and they're talking about how they feel so terrible for people with "no faith", but I think it's better than how it would be if they knew I did not believe in a God.

In a lot of ways it's really similar to a gay person being in the closet, I suppose.
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The big deal is that in certain states you can't hold public office if you are an atheist.
Oh my

I have to laugh though, the leader of the Conservative Party in Britain was recently asked if he thought Jesus had died for his sins whilst on his way out of a church service. His exact answer was, "uh, I think, um, you keep asking this sort of odd question of me as I wander around places. I think we'll, we'll leave it for a while".
So I guess he regularly attends church to garner the Xstian vote then
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The big deal is that in certain states you can't hold public office if you are an atheist.
Seriously? I had no idea! I'm betting some of those are Bible Belt states! What a sad, sad commentary that such rules still exist.
A person's religion (or lack thereof) should have NO place in politics, but it always does. Candidates love to point out, at every chance they get, how religious (note that I did not say "moral", as there is a huge difference) they are in order to court the large Christian conservative crowd.
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Seriously? I had no idea! I'm betting some of those are Bible Belt states! What a sad, sad commentary that such rules still exist.
A person's religion (or lack thereof) should have NO place in politics, but it always does. Candidates love to point out, at every chance they get, how religious (note that I did not say "moral", as there is a huge difference) they are in order to court the large Christian conservative crowd.
Yes, I'll have to do some research, but one of my best friends is an athiest and he has all the information about it. I'll call him at lunch.

EDIT: http://www.religioustolerance.org/texas.htm

Texas, Arkansas, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania.
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The big deal is that in certain states you can't hold public office if you are an atheist.
this is the Land of the Free?
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this is the Land of the Free?
I guess you have to make up your own mind about that.
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this is the Land of the Free?
yea, and people are free to vote for who they like.
anyway for me, i vote who i think the best person is, i dont care, what there faith or lack of faith is. I dont see that as make or break thing.
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yea, and people are free to vote for who they like.
anyway for me, i vote who i think the best person is, i dont care, what there faith or lack of faith is. I dont see that as make or break thing.
but if they can't run, you can't vote for them, even if they are the best candidate


wow, that really is perposterous that someones religious viewpoint would prevent them from running for an elected office..... half-expected Ohio to be on the list, we're so close-minded about everything else
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but if they can't run, you can't vote for them, even if they are the best candidate


wow, that really is perposterous that someones religious viewpoint would prevent them from running for an elected office..... half-expected Ohio to be on the list, we're so close-minded about everything else
ethat is the southern ohio, up here we not that bad. this is what happens when you have only 2 groups that are calling all the shots. What we get now is cookiee cutter people running for office.
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ethat is the southern ohio, up here we not that bad. this is what happens when you have only 2 groups that are calling all the shots. What we get now is cookiee cutter people running for office.
if by southern you're including Columbus....

yeah, and those same people change their tune as soon as they get in office, they never do what they say they're going to anymore, its jsut a bunch of lip service and on that note, since *most* american politicians are Christians, where are the morals they are supposed to be living by? its all so messed up, I really think our political systems needs a MAJOR overhaul
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