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post #1 of 29
Thread Starter 
Can anyone tell me what breed is the most expensive and what breeds are rare? I look forward to everyones input.
post #2 of 29
The Sokoke is a very rare breed.

First generation bengal cats which are 50% asian leopard cats, go for about $4,500.
post #3 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thank your for your input. That was fast! Are threre alot of bengal breeders?
post #4 of 29
Seems to be now - but you have to be careful - you don't want to be dealing with anything less then a F4 generation Bengal unless you know what you are doing.

Singapuras are kinda rare - not very common.

Why are you curious about rare, expensive, and "tea cup" cats?
post #5 of 29
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals View Post
The Sokoke is a very rare breed.
I've never even heard of this breed of cat.
post #6 of 29
Thread Starter 
my wife and kids want to start showing cats, and mayby breeding them? I dont want to jump into anything to quick and would like to get as much info as possible. As a family we would like to deal with a breed that isnt common, something a little exotic. We have added a room to our house (500 square feet) with air and heat etc. but like I said I would like to do alot of research before we move any further, and catch a few cat shows.
post #7 of 29
Well researching and taking things slowly is a very good approach on your behalf. I know in my case I read up all I could about my breed (Balinese), feline genetics, and general breeding books for about two years before I got my first kitten on the active list, also find out about any diseases the breed in known for that you have to test for. I also had a pet Balinese which is one of the best ways of finding out about the breed.

Also going to lots of different shows from different registries (there are quite a few main ones in the US if you are there) and getting an idea of what the standard is for the breed you like. Meeting breeders and talking to them about showing gave me some invaluable advice. Also getting a show mentor is very helpful as the shows can be confusing when you are starting out (as in my case!).

I am a novice breeder in my first year. My foundation Queen is still a kitten and I feel like I am learning everyday. You have found a wonderful resource with the Catsite, there are some great breeders here that can offer you some great advice on showing and maybe eventually breeding. Also if you decide to breed try and save up a good bit of money for any surprises (like a C-Section) as you won't be making any money at all!

This by no means a complete list just some observations made by a novice!
post #8 of 29
Figure out the breed you want first. When you do decide to show (which is recommend before you do any breeding), get a nice show alter and work with that breed and learn as you show. Also, you will make contact with other breeders so you can hook up with them for a nice show/breeder.

I also recommend you start with a breeding female - not a male. Males have special needs that most novices are not prepared to handle. You can make contacts so that when your female is old enough to breed (not too young) you will have breeders with stud cats that you can take her to.

Make a list of the type of cats you like and the grooming requirements. Many longhairs look very pretty in the show hall - but its a ton of grooming that goes into that cat well before stepping into the show ring.
post #9 of 29
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
Make a list of the type of cats you like and the grooming requirements.
I agree, you need to do that there's so many personalities in the different breeds. Do you want active, calm, quite, a talker etc.
post #10 of 29
I don't know where you're located swate so, here's my list - at least for the US.

1. Burmese and European Burmese
2. Tonkinese
3. Korats (extremely rare)
4. Singapuras
5. Havana Brown
6. Chartreux

Notice that these are SH breeds....
post #11 of 29
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Originally Posted by swate View Post
Thank your for your input. That was fast! Are threre alot of bengal breeders?
Yes, there are tons of bengal breeders. A few too many in my opinion.
post #12 of 29
I just recently read on cat fanciers' association site that these 3 breeds are so rare they are almost extinct Korat, Turkish Angora, and LaPerm. That info was in the FancyMews issue under legislative issues. What do consider rare? I feel most cat breeds are rare. As for price it really depends on the titles that the parents carry. If you want a kitten from a National Winning cat you will pay thousands for it no matter what breed it is. I feel Somalis are rare and pet prices run from $700-$1000 but if you want kitten from a National Winning Somali you will pay alot more. I say go to cat shows and decide which breed you like best. Talk with breeders and get a kitten to show in the alter class before you decide to breed.
post #13 of 29
T. Angoras are NOT rare - there are plenty of breeders in the US. LaPerms are not common, Korats are less common too. What I consider "rare" are the Singapuras - haven't seen them in shows for a very long time. I don't think there are that many US breeders.
post #14 of 29
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
T. Angoras are NOT rare - there are plenty of breeders in the US. LaPerms are not common, Korats are less common too. What I consider "rare" are the Singapuras - haven't seen them in shows for a very long time. I don't think there are that many US breeders.
doesn't Flisssweetpea have Singapuras? Tolstoy & Lily? they are beautiful cats LaPerms are those curly-haired kitties, a bit like the Rexes (I don't know which one is curly, sorry ) and what is a Korat or Sokoke? I have never heard of those breeds either!
post #15 of 29
Korats I think are Tailand's native cat. They are blue with silver ticking and green eyes. You also have the Russian Blues which also are blue with silver and green eyes but totally different in looks.

Korats have very short coats (like a burmese) and have a more "heart shaped" face.

LaPerms are a natural mutation of curly coat - not related to either the devons or the cornish. They come in long and short hair - kinda like a plushy teddybear type of cat - round body like a British SH. I got to pet one at a show to see the difference - they are really different

I've heard of the Sokake - but never seen one other then pics on the net.
post #16 of 29
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
T. Angoras are NOT rare - there are plenty of breeders in the US. LaPerms are not common, Korats are less common too. What I consider "rare" are the Singapuras - haven't seen them in shows for a very long time. I don't think there are that many US breeders.
What makes a breed considered rare? Like I said imo Somalis are rare with registration numbers 300-400 a year. Turkish Angoras numbers are less. So imo Turkish Angoras are rare.

This is from cfainc.org so CFA feels Turkish Angoras are rare.

Some rare and exotic breeds are kept alive by a devoted following of people who value them for their distinct personalities and beauty. A sampling of these, with the total numbers registered worldwide with CFA in 2005, include:

* the mysterious and ancient Korat (93);
* the Turkish Angora, saved from extinction once before by a breeding program in the Ankara Zoo (250);
* the unique curly coated La Perm (24).
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45 View Post
T. Angoras are NOT rare - there are plenty of breeders in the US. LaPerms are not common, Korats are less common too. What I consider "rare" are the Singapuras - haven't seen them in shows for a very long time. I don't think there are that many US breeders.
I usually see a Singapura or two at the TICA cat shows I go to. I really like them, and if I ever stop breeding bengals, I'll probably get one as a pet.
Right now, I think my bengals might be too rough on a Singapura.
post #18 of 29
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
doesn't Flisssweetpea have Singapuras? Tolstoy & Lily? they are beautiful cats LaPerms are those curly-haired kitties, a bit like the Rexes (I don't know which one is curly, sorry ) and what is a Korat or Sokoke? I have never heard of those breeds either!
Here's a link for the Sokoke http://www.fanciers.com/breed-faqs/sokoke-faq.html
post #19 of 29
I looked them all up on the CFA site and I have to say that those LaPerms are the cutest little things!! The Korats are beautiful and the Sokokes remind me of Bengals a bit.... I think I'll still stick with an Aby or Meezer one day, maybe both!!
post #20 of 29
I am not a breeder nor do I show, but I think the foremost important question before starting is "Are you a cat person?".

Do you have any cats now? I am sure our members who are breeders think of their cats as family, not only income, and I would hope you would think the same.

My 2 cents...
post #21 of 29
Singapuras...

There is only ONE breeder in Asia (outside of Japan) that breeds Singapuras and he is in Singapore and the president of a cat club over there and a dear friend of mine.

There are maybe 3-4 Singapura breeders in Oz and about 2 that I know of in Japan.

As for Korats...well, there may be a new Korat breeder on this board soon!!!
post #22 of 29
If you want to see some really cute Singapura kittens, visit this link:

Warning, these are really cute kittens.
I especially like Spookipawz Vanquish

http://www.spookipawz.com/pastsingas.htm
post #23 of 29
those babies are so CUTE!!!! love those big eyes
post #24 of 29
Awwww - they are cute, but I like the one body shot of the kitten laying on the couch the best (starts with an S name).
post #25 of 29
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Originally Posted by Kai Bengals View Post
If you want to see some really cute Singapura kittens, visit this link:

Warning, these are really cute kittens.
I especially like Spookipawz Vanquish

http://www.spookipawz.com/pastsingas.htm

I just LOVE Singapura's. They are just about the coolest looking cats I have ever seen.

My favourite on that page is Spookipawz Valentino Rossi, a little more than half way down the page. Look at that little buggers eyes. Even by Singapura standards, that little cutie has enormous eyes.
post #26 of 29
Thread Starter 
Thanks for all the input, I look forward to meeting some of you at future cat shows... After reading all your advise and input I am ready to start flushing some money down the drain... I love cats though so its worth it..
post #27 of 29
BTW where are you located? US or over seas - if US what state?
post #28 of 29
I am not a breeder, but I was wondering if you know the costs of breeding. It should be done out of love for the breed, and not for profit. The breeders that I know did not go into breeding until they had already had cats for several years at least, and had fallen in love with a particular breed. From what I have heard, even breeders who breed the most expensive cats make little to no money from it, after vet bills and all of the other costs that reputable breeding requires. It is a big decision, so it's nice to see that you are being patient and doing your research.

Edit: I was just looking at some of your other posts, and noticed that you've already had a discussion about the costs of breeding, so sorry for the repetition!
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by swate View Post
Thanks for all the input, I look forward to meeting some of you at future cat shows... After reading all your advise and input I am ready to start flushing some money down the drain... I love cats though so its worth it..
It is nice to see you doing research! Good for you!
I think if you want to travel to shows, breed, and live with these cats on a daily basis, don't go only for what is rare - go with what you like, can live with, and cats that will bring you the most joy every day.
The different breeds have different requirements and different personalities. Some are more talkative, some need more grooming than others, long hair, short hair, some have special needs, some have certain hereditary health problems you need to be aware of, some are larger more substantial cats, some are more fragile, some have tons of energy and will require more work on your part to keep them happy activity wise, others are content as lap cats, some are more social, some NEED attention and will be your shadow all the time, etc. There are lots of factors to consider...
Then from there you have research pedigrees, know what problems to avoid, it might be helpful for you to get a mentor in the breed you are interested in for a couple of years before you jump into things.
The more specific you are, the more people can help...
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