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post #121 of 261
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We have been writing letters to the reps that are on the committee. I wonder what they would think if they received letters from the UK
No harm in trying?. After all, it's not as if i don't know you and what your going through if you know what i mean?.
post #122 of 261
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No harm in trying?. After all, it's not as if i don't know you and what your going through if you know what i mean?.
I am going to send you a PM
post #123 of 261
I sent John a copy of a GREAT response I got from one of the representatives. This rep had a very strong response, and hopefully he will get to make a good stand for the oppostion to the bill!
post #124 of 261
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I sent John a copy of a GREAT response I got from one of the representatives. This rep had a very strong response, and hopefully he will get to make a good stand for the oppostion to the bill!
Wow, that was one excellent reply This representative is on the committee who will be hearing this bill tomorrow. If this bill gets stopped in committee, it is done!! Of course, a different version can come back next year, but we won't even go there right now. This shows that they may be willing to work with us on a fair bill.
post #125 of 261
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
Wow, that was one excellent reply This representative is on the committee who will be hearing this bill tomorrow. If this bill gets stopped in committee, it is done!! Of course, a different version can come back next year, but we won't even go there right now. This shows that they may be willing to work with us on a fair bill.
WOW. That sounds promising! Keeping the vibes }}}}}}}}}}}{{{{{{{{{{ revved up here!
post #126 of 261
That's wonderful news.
If I happen to hear back from anyone, I'll be sure to let you guys know.
post #127 of 261
I've heard back from one as well who's also giving his support!

John i'll e-mail it to you now
post #128 of 261
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Ok, I thought I would update everyone. Yesterday, 4/18, we attended the committee hearing on this bill. It was very disturbing to listen to the representative read his bill (I should point out, this isn't really his bill. It is a bill written by an Animal Rights extremist group know as API, Animal Protection Institute and this rep is introducing a bill THEY wrote). However, after the bill was read, things became very interesting. When he asked, are there any questions, I could not have imagined how many state reps would ask him questions. Many questions HE did NOT know the answer to. He did mention over and over the AR extremist group API. One thing is for sure, all of you who have helped by writing and or calling, your voice WAS heard and it was heard strongly This is why the reps asked questions. You have done a wonderful job and I can not thank you enough This is not over, but yesterday was a very positive day. As for what's next? I will keep you posted. When the time comes, I will call for your help once again. If we are lucky, this bill will be killed right here in commitee, but I am not sure if that will happen or not. The rep and the API are wanting this thing to go through. Another aspect of all this, it has been a great learning experience. If you have never gone to any of your state hearings like this, you should. These representatives were voted in by you and they need to hear how you feel on any and all bills that come before them. Many bills, they have no idea on the subject and will only hear from people who support the bill. They NEED to hear both sides, so they can make an educated decision. Pay attention to all your local, county and state bills. You just never know when something will come along that will affect you. But, when you come together, like we have here, you can make a huge difference. This was never more evident, than it was yesterday at our state house
post #129 of 261
Looking good John

It seems that i got the same e-mail as Nita got, but at least he bothered to get in touch Just shout for more help
post #130 of 261
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Looking good John

It seems that i got the same e-mail as Nita got, but at least he bothered to get in touch Just shout for more help
Yep, good news that they had lots of questions that the rep got put on the spot with!

And yes, Susan and I heard from the same rep!
post #131 of 261
My wife and I have a F2 Savannah, under this bill, he is considered a hybrid of a Serval, so he too would fall under this ruling. The only thing he can be accused of is licking ya to death. I have many friends who have contacted their represenatives as well, hopefully this goes no further.

If your intereseted, Simba's pictures are at

http://ecooksweb.com/simba.htm

Eric
post #132 of 261
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My wife and I have a F2 Savannah, under this bill, he is considered a hybrid of a Serval, so he too would fall under this ruling. The only thing he can be accused of is licking ya to death. I have many friends who have contacted their represenatives as well, hopefully this goes no further.

If your intereseted, Simba's pictures are at

http://ecooksweb.com/simba.htm

Eric
GREAT pics, Eric! And we are all pulling for this bill to be defeated, even though of us who aren't in Ohio.
post #133 of 261
Simbas gorgeous Eric
post #134 of 261
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Originally Posted by ecook280 View Post
My wife and I have a F2 Savannah, under this bill, he is considered a hybrid of a Serval, so he too would fall under this ruling. The only thing he can be accused of is licking ya to death. I have many friends who have contacted their represenatives as well, hopefully this goes no further.

If your intereseted, Simba's pictures are at

http://ecooksweb.com/simba.htm

Eric
Yes Eric, this is a very bad Animal Rights bill. This bill was written by API (Animal Protection Institute) and this is their foot in the door to ban not just exotics, but to eliminate ALL animal ownership. Make sure you continue to write and or call your state representatives asking them not to support this bill. Always remember to be polite and courteous when writing and speaking with them. I have a list of representatives who are on the committee that is hearing this bill at the moment. We need to stop this bill in committee. If you would like to write them as well, this would be very beneficial. Our boy Carmelo is guilty of the same as well. Being very adorable and wanting to purr and groom my wife and I all the time By the way, Simba is awesome
post #135 of 261
Any word on how things went today, I saw the meeting was scheduled for 8:30 AM this morning but I can not find anything as far as how it went.

Eric
http://ecooksweb.com
post #136 of 261
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Any word on how things went today, I saw the meeting was scheduled for 8:30 AM this morning but I can not find anything as far as how it went.

Eric
http://ecooksweb.com
I did not hear much, on how the proponent hearing went today, but as soon as I do, I will post it. However, I did find out that the opponent hearing scheduled for next week, May 2nd, has been postponed. Could this be a good thing? Maybe they are not going to waste any more time on it? That I do not know. But, it gives us more time to write in opposition of the bill
post #137 of 261
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Not much new to post at the moment, but I thought I would post a link to a good article about the animal rights extremists. This would have been good to post on that other forum, that has since been closed. This is further proof that these AR extremists are a threat to each and every one of us
http://www.animalliberationfront.com...ld_problem.htm
post #138 of 261
Thanks for the article-in Wisconsin last April it when the whole "feral" cat shooting controvery came up-so many animal (cat) lovers showed up at the regional conversation congresses (which of course are mainly hunters) and the state of Wisconsin was so embarassed over the national exposure this "rule" will never pass by the WI DNR. It shows that true support can win in the end.
I hope that the state of Ohio wises up to this fact-especially for your sake.
post #139 of 261
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Thanks for the article-in Wisconsin last April it when the whole "feral" cat shooting controvery came up-so many animal (cat) lovers showed up at the regional conversation congresses (which of course are mainly hunters) and the state of Wisconsin was so embarassed over the national exposure this "rule" will never pass by the WI DNR. It shows that true support can win in the end.
I hope that the state of Ohio wises up to this fact-especially for your sake.
I am glad that you looked at this site. I sure hope more people look at this site as well. I guess the majority of people will never believe me or what I have to say, about the animal rights extremist movement, until it happens to them. Unfortunately, by then, it will be to late. I can not stress enough, how real of a threat, these animal rights extremists really are. If they are allowed to continue unchecked, in the not to distant future, there will be no such thing as pets. The funny thing is, the federal goverment has classified these animal rights extremist groups as domestic terrorists, but still allows these groups to be tax exempt They make millions of dollars, pay no taxes on that money, use the money for their own agenda, which is to eliminate ALL contact between man and animal and to pay lobbyists to push these ban bills through, but do not use the money to help animals and to educate people on responsible ownership (I am talking about all animals here, not just exotics).
post #140 of 261
How does one totally eliminate all contact with all animals? They're all around us! The human race would not have survived without contact with animals - be it insect, reptile, avian or mammal.

By the way, it would mean no contact with humans as we are animals, too.
post #141 of 261
Yep, very very advanced ones. Wisdom teeth and some of our dreams are proof of that.

I think animal protecton is good but people can go too far, I for one wouldnt like to live in a world without pets. I think they are right about a 'Walt disney' education system concerning city people and wildlife. Geese do not eat surgery cereal and sing songs, like daffy duck in their real "natural" life I found a lone candian goose yesterday by the river it was so tame I touched its tail it wouldnt fly away and it was earting lucky charms cereal that someone had dumped on the ground.
post #142 of 261
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Just a quick update. It has been a while since I posted anything, but at the moment, we are at a stand still. The opponent hearing has been postponed again. This could be a very good thing. We are hoping that it keeps getting posponed and dies under a stack of other bills
post #143 of 261
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/...er-Mauling.php

http://www.canada.com/globaltv/natio...99bf88&k=12385

A woman in British Columbia was mauled to death by one of her boy friend's 3 pet tigers. She had been around them before.

The 3 tigers were indoor/outdoor cats and the news channel showed videos of the cats playing with the family members, including a young child.

These animals are meant to be in the wild, not kept as pets. I do not support keeping large cats as domestic pets.
post #144 of 261
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Originally Posted by Natalie_ca View Post
A woman in British Columbia was mauled to death by one of her boy friend's 3 pet tigers. She had been around them before.

The 3 tigers were indoor/outdoor cats and the news channel showed videos of the cats playing with the family members, including a young child.

These animals are meant to be in the wild, not kept as pets. I do not support keeping large cats as domestic pets.
Well, this is NOT IMO and your opinion about these cats being kept as pets is wrong...sorry. I do not want any animal rights nonsense posted here This thread is about a pending bill. Now, if you would READ what you posted, you can see that how these people handled their cats, was wrong. You DO NOT allow a small child in with these full grown cats. With tigers and ANY large cat, the only person who should go in with them is the owner. If anyone else goes in with them, the cat should be in a lockout section of the cage at all times. Even when the owner goes in with them, it is best that the cats go in a lockout, especially with large cats like lions, tigers and leopards. I never allow anyone in with my cats, except other exotic owners and the veteranarian. No one else goes in, unless the cats are locked down. As for tigers meant to be left out in the wild, the sad fact is, there is NO place left for them in the wild. In the not so distant future, that is, in our lifetime, there will be no more tigers in the wild. The only place you will see them is in private collections. Even though this person was killed due to THEIR mistake, does NOT mean this type of animal ownership should be banned. If this is true, then we must ban cars, motorcycles, guns, people, taking showers, ALL domestic dogs, ladders, toys, swimming, all terrain vehicles, alcohol, fireworks, I can go on, because ALL these things cause more death and injury (especially people) to people than any large cat in captivity. Ownership of these cats is my, or anyone elses right, to do so. As long as you do so RESPONSIBLY. It is very clear, that the people who own these tigers are NOT responsible.
post #145 of 261
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Just an update. The bill will not be heard again next week. Is it possible this bill is just geting buried? Will it just die in committee? I pray to God this is exactly what happens I just wanted everyone to know this hasn't gone away, but sometimes these things just take a while. However, nothing would please me more, than to have it just die in committee.
post #146 of 261
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
Just an update. The bill will not be heard again next week. Is it possible this bill is just geting buried? Will it just die in committee? I pray to God this is exactly what happens I just wanted everyone to know this hasn't gone away, but sometimes these things just take a while. However, nothing would please me more, than to have it just die in committee.

Keeping my fingers crossed that it does just that.
post #147 of 261
I'm hoping that's exactly what happens.
post #148 of 261
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Originally Posted by LSULOVER View Post
Keeping my fingers crossed that it does just that.
You still got that gris gris going, I hope.
post #149 of 261
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You still got that gris gris going, I hope.
Yes, the gris gris, we have to keep that alive
post #150 of 261
Fingers, toes, eyes, paws, tails -- you name it -- all , John.
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