Who are the horrible women in history?

katiemae1277

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what about Marie Antoinette? I don't think she did anything outrightly "evil" but she was not a good person either
 

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Originally Posted by lunasmom

How about Queen Mary (aka "Bloody Mary")?

Anne Boleyn?

Lady Jane Gray?
I should add first that I'm Fred&Nermal posing a F&N'sDad just for tonight. My boyfriend's wireless is down, so I can't use my laptop at his place. His computer is hooked up via cable, and I don't want to screw up his TCS connection.

Is Bloody Mary Queen Elizabeth the First's older sister (catherine's daughter)? The one who killed all the protestant supporters? I always get confused with Mary Queen of Scots.

I don't think Anne Boleyn was evil. Just a victim of Henry's lust and desire to have a son. She didn't come through with a son so she got the axe (Ironic that she did have Elizabeth, who made England into a super power. But because she was female.....).

For the same reasons as Anne, I think Lady Jane Gray was innocent. As a woman back then you didn't have much choice as to your destiny.

If anyone's interested in books on this subject and is into quick, light entertaining reading check out these:
http://astore.amazon.com/malaspgreat...ail/0743227441
 

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Originally Posted by Pekoe & Nigel

A Canadian: Karla Homolka http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial_k...jump_page.html
Still very much alive, and now, out of jail.
Killed young schoolgirls, including her sister. I feel physically ill thinking about it.
I should add first that I'm Fred&Nermal posing a F&N'sDad just for tonight. My boyfriend's wireless is down, so I can't use my laptop at his place. His computer is hooked up via cable, and I don't want to screw up his TCS connection.

I just remembered that I visited the Kingston Women's penetentiary for work, after it was 99% closed down. Someone pointed out Karla's cel. It was painted pink. Yukky.

Another thing. I close friend of mine grew up near where Paul and Karla's house was. She drove me by it. It was leveled down to the ground and all that existed was a big patch of yard. Supposedly, a foreigner bought the property. I'm not sure if they've built on it yet. Who would want to live there, no matter what the good price for the land?!
 

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Originally Posted by mooficat

NO......
that is just so insensitive
why? even if is true. that is not her job. Her job is Securty of state, not home land(and i am not saying that cause she may be my new boss in a few weeks)
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people are just throwing in the politcal views here, kinda like i did with Hilary.

besides i still think my ex wife wins
 

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Originally Posted by sofiecusion

Susan Smith.....although she's not dead.


Mary Ann Cotton (1800s serial killer who killed three husbands, a lover, a friend, her mother and a dozen children, all of whom had died of "stomach fevers" later to be found out as arsenic.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Cotton
I read a book called Black Widow that was a similiar story but in the late 1960s I think. It was also true. A women, Marie Hilley, who murdered her family for life insurance money. Supposedly a true story. An entertaining murder story.


http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou.../hilley/1.html
 

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Messalina and Catherine de Medici were both masters of poison. I would not include Jane Grey or Anne Boleyn - both victims of politics. And even Bloody Mary (Elizabeth's older sister) did what she did because of religious fervour, not to be evil. Mary Queen of Scots on the other hand, often portrayed as a victim, in fact ordered the murder of her husband.
 

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Originally Posted by f&n'sdad

I read a book called Black Widow that was a similiar story but in the late 1960s I think. It was also true. A women, Marie Hilley, who murdered her family for life insurance money. Supposedly a true story. An entertaining murder story.


http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou.../hilley/1.html
I never read the book, but I did see a movie made about it, and I do think it was a true story too.
 

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Originally Posted by valanhb

She's too recent to be a past life thing, but Eileen Wournos definitely qualifies as evil!
History is also contemporary history, not only something that happened 300 years ago.


Also, I think most people defined evil are either mentally ill or think they're doing the bad thing for some greater good. Has anyone noticed that women are judged a lot harsher than men? When a female politician acts like a male politician, she's an evil bitch but he's strong.

BTW, Wuornos was of Finnish descent, good for us.
 

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New Testament - Salome - she did the erotic veil dance so her step father, who was it, Herod, would give her her heart's desire.

When she finished her dance, he asked her what she wanted and she said:

"The head of John the Baptist on a silver platter"

She got her wish.

I would say she is right up there
 

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Originally Posted by sofiecusion

Susan Smith.....although she's not dead.
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My cousin-in-law's father used to work as the head cook at the prison Susan Smith. When she was in line to get her food he would always ask how her kids were. She's not very well liked.
 

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Originally Posted by katiemae1277

what about Marie Antoinette? I don't think she did anything outrightly "evil" but she was not a good person either
well she did let thousands of French people starve to death, while she was living it up.....

Also, Diane Downs, who killed her kids.....she's down right evil too, but I don't know if she's dead yet.....
 

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Originally Posted by f&n'sdad

Another thing. I close friend of mine grew up near where Paul and Karla's house was. She drove me by it. It was leveled down to the ground and all that existed was a big patch of yard. Supposedly, a foreigner bought the property. I'm not sure if they've built on it yet. Who would want to live there, no matter what the good price for the land?!
I can only hope that they just didn't know what happened on that site. Otherwise... why? That's just sick. It would be bad enough having to live in that neighbourhood now, nevermind right where those horrible things happened.
 
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Originally Posted by sofiecusion

Susan Smith.....although she's not dead.


Mary Ann Cotton (1800s serial killer who killed three husbands, a lover, a friend, her mother and a dozen children, all of whom had died of "stomach fevers" later to be found out as arsenic.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Ann_Cotton
I totally forgot about Susan Smith! She's definitely on the "very evil" list!

With so many women serving time now for heinous crimes, I have to assume that there were plenty of evil women in history - we just don't know about them, and like I was thinking before - the truly infamous were the women behind the evil men.....

But this has been fascinating in a morbid kind of way!

Laurie
 
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