I have another question about Vista

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Is it true that all of the software we are now using, will NOT work on Vista and that we'll have to buy all new software? I don't have Vista yet, still have XP, but I'm sure I'm going to want to upgrade to a new computer within the next year or so, and I know it will have Vista. I certainly can't afford to buy new versions of Photoshop, which is SO expensive. I really am not going to have the money to buy all new versions of any of my software.

Please tell me we can still use the same software, if not I'm going to have to keep this XP computer forever.
 
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Originally Posted by icklemiss21

You can still buy new computers with XP

for Photoshop, the only version that will work with vista is CS3
I wonder why the other versions won't work. I know I can still use the same programs I had on Windows 98 on XP. I'm not too happy about this. I doubt than in a year or two, they will be selling any computers with XP. It was freak luck that I was able to get Photoshop. I doubt I'll be able to afford a new version. This is very bad news.
 

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It is just a matter of time till everyone will have upgrades to vista. I doubt you will have to rebuy everything, you will just have to download an upgrade. You can wrote to the individual sites and ask when they will be vista ready.
 
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Looks like I'm going to have to start saving. I only have Photoshop 7. I wonder why they'd make this Vista program where it wasn't compatable with other programs. I guess if I can't afford the new Vista ready Photoshop, I'm going to have to force myself to get used to using Paint Shop Pro
 

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The reason why is they are in it to make $$$$ so they make $$ if you have to buy new versions...
 

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Microsoft supported Windows 98 for about 5 years after it stopped production, and it still works to this date, just without any updates or tech support from them. I would daresay that XP will be around for a long time to come....
 

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I have the same issues, Hope. I had Office Professional on my old computer (95 and XP), and my current one (XP SP II) only came with a trial version of Office. I've been using Open Office on my new computer, but can't open all MS Office files with it. I don't see why I should pay for Office/Office Professional all over again. My nephew has a brand-new computer with Vista, and since so many of his programs don't work with it, he's wiped his HDD and installed XP. I took a different route. I copied all the important programs and files from my old computer to an external HDD, and access that when I want to use the old software. There have been a couple of hitches, but so far most of the stuff is working.
 

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Originally Posted by HopeHacker

Is it true that all of the software we are now using, will NOT work on Vista and that we'll have to buy all new software? I don't have Vista yet, still have XP, but I'm sure I'm going to want to upgrade to a new computer within the next year or so, and I know it will have Vista. I certainly can't afford to buy new versions of Photoshop, which is SO expensive. I really am not going to have the money to buy all new versions of any of my software.

Please tell me we can still use the same software, if not I'm going to have to keep this XP computer forever.
icklemiss- not true, I'm running CS2 on Vista and it works just fine. I bought my new laptop almost two weeks ago (an HP dv6265us), and put my copy of CS2 on it, and it works like a charm.

So far all the other programs I use have worked fine as well - the exception being ws ftp. I switched to cute ftp and that's working fine.

I was looking for some software to create cd labels and inserts, and I found in Comp USA a program called SureThing, it's great, and it's Vista-certified and works great. So there ARE new programs being made for vista.

some other programs I have working fine with Vista:

winamp
soulseek
total video converter
logitech quick cam
nero

thats just off the top of my head - I'm sure there are more.

Hopehacker: "I wonder why they'd make this Vista program where it wasn't compatable with other programs."

Actually it's the software manufacturers responsibility to update their software so that it's compatible with Vista. Vista is a new OS, it has a lot in common with XP but it has a LOT of new stuff too, in particular, the security has been ramped up quite a bit. One of the biggest criticisms of XP was how many security holes there were. They've fixed all those things and Vista is extremely secure, they've also redone the way some things work and added new things, all so that users will have a better experience. Because it's a new OS in a lot of ways, some programs for XP won't work on it - that's just how it is - in order to improve the product, they needed to change some things a lot -and that will inevitably affect some programs.

It's now the software manufacturers responsibility to write Vista versions of their software. They're all doing it, it's just taking some longer than others. Like I said tho, I've only had an issue with one program so far. And CS2 works fine, you won't have to repurchase photoshop
 

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I know CS2 runs with Vista but it isn't meant for Vista which is why Adobe have written to CS2 registered users about upgrades to CS3 if they are running Vista.

Besides, Hope doesn't have CS2 either, and I know 7 doesn't run well on Vista because a friend just had to buy CS to run on Vista
 

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Originally Posted by icklemiss21

I know CS2 runs with Vista but it isn't meant for Vista which is why Adobe have written to CS2 registered users about upgrades to CS3 if they are running Vista.

Besides, Hope doesn't have CS2 either, and I know 7 doesn't run well on Vista because a friend just had to buy CS to run on Vista
but what does it matter if it's "not meant for Vista" as long as everything works fine in Vista? (I mean the CS2 version). Personally I think that's just greediness on Adobe's part - tell customers that CS2 "isnt meant for Vista", get them all worried that they're going to have problems, make them think they need CS3 - and of course, they'll need to buy it = boom, more money for Adobe. There's absolutely no reason you can't run CS2 on Vista.
 

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What "not meant for Vista" means is that they really don't know what could stop working and they aren't going to support any issues you find. I think versions written for XP will have a better chance of working in Vista than those that were written for Windows 95/98SE (even if they were updated when XP came out). But if the application took advantage of "undocumented" APIs or tricks of the operating system that Vista determines to be unsecure, they they could be in trouble.

We are currently testing our sales application under Vista and it hasn't been pretty because we didn't keep up with the support file changes (all of those millions of *.dll files you find under windows\\system and windows\\system32). The application just doesn't flat out work. Fortunately, the corporation doesn't move quickly on a new corporate OS. It took over 3 years to convert everyone from NT to XP.
 
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Even if CS2 can work on Vista, that doesn't help me. My purchase of Photoshop was a once in a lifetime thing, or so it seems now, unless I win the Lotto or something. I paid almost $800 for Photoshop 7. Unless something drastically changes in my financial situation I will NEVER be able to switch over to Vista, because I spend the majority of my time on the computer working on Graphics, and to be honest, I just WILL NOT be able to afford to buy all new programs, just so I can use them on Vista. If I have to buy all new products, I might as well just get a MAC computer.

For me, just having a computer to get on the Internet is a waste.

I'm just glad I found out about this, before I went out and bought a new computer. I would imagine that none of my programs that I have now, will work on Vista, and to me for Microsoft to create a system that requires you to go out and buy NEW programs, all of which are expensive seems like bad business. I don't think it's the job of Adobe to make Photoshop 7 or CS2 suitable for Vista. I think Vista should have made the OS suitable for some of these programs, especially when they're not that old. The sad thing is, that even my Dreamweaver probably won't work on Vista either. If I get a new computer in the next year or so, I'll probably have to downsize to Photoshop Elements, and I'm sure that won't be easy to do, because I'm used to so much more.
 

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Originally Posted by Adobe

Q. Does Adobe support Adobe Creative Suite 2 on Windows Vista?
A. Adobe Creative Suite 2 was released almost two years before Windows Vista became publicly available and is not recommended for use on this new operating system. While some of its components, including Adobe InDesign CS2, Illustrator CS2, and Photoshop CS2, install and run under Windows Vista with only minor known issues, other components such as Acrobat 7.0 Professional do not support Windows Vista.
They are also offering the upgrade at a very low price if you provide proof of purchase for Vista, so it is not just a cash grab for Adobe
 
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