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post #31 of 57
but in order to get that funding you have to have already taken your pet and paid for a vet visit on your own, which supernatural is unable to do.
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by jaycee View Post
but in order to get that funding you have to have already taken your pet and paid for a vet visit on your own, which supernatural is unable to do.
I think that may not be the case always. ONe of the rules (if I read it right) of the link already provided is that if you've already paid, you don't qualify.
post #33 of 57
as i read it you have to have already taken your pet the vet and gotten a diagnosis and have a letter from the vet stating that your pet does require emergency treatment within 48 hours. the treatment is what they will help pay for, not the initial vet visit. you have to pay for that.

eta-- here is a quote from the site: When your veterinarian has examined your pet and determined that treatment must take place within the next 24 to 48 hours, IMOM considers it to be a life threatening emergency. These are the only conditions under which we can send you an emergency application form.
post #34 of 57
Supernaturel I hope you are still reading this thread

Here is a link,You can search for a vet that does care credit and take your cat to one of them,Then you will just have to pay a liitle bit at a time,What you can afford.
In the drop down list select veterinary then anyvet or emergency and enter your Zip code.

http://www.carecredit.com/vetmed/whycc.html

Are you in the US?Please let us know where in the world you are so we can find some
financial help for you and your kitty.

I don't know if this is any help but here's another link

search here http://www.healthypet.com/hospital_search.aspx

http://www.aahahelpingpets.org/root/how.htm
post #35 of 57
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Originally Posted by Supernatural View Post
Thank you for all your feedback, we have just found out that when we lift Princess's tail up, she can walk.
I've tried calling many vets for advice, but they all said the same thing: Bring her in so they can take a look at her. They don't give anything for free.
As much as I hate it, we have decided to wait a few days to see if she gets any better, if not we may have to leave her...theres nothing we can do. We can't afford a vet. Thanks for your help though, I am going to keep trying to figure out whats wrong with her. I really hope that she gets better, I love that cat to death!
Thank you for all your feedback. We just found out that when we lift Emily's hand up, she can walk.
I've tried calling many doctors for advice, but they all said the same thing: Bring her in so they can take a look at her. They don't give anything for free.
As much as I hate it, we have decided to wait a few days to see if she gets any better, if not we may have to leave her...there's nothing we can do. We can't afford a doctor, we don't have any health insurance. Thanks for your help though, I am going to keep trying to figure out what's wrong with her. I really hope she gets better, I love my daughter Emily to death!
post #36 of 57
That was cute. I dont think she will come back because she doesnt want to get yelled at for not taking care of responsibilities. This is why I like animals better than people.
So we probably wont ever hear the outcome of this sad story....
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by bemyonlyone View Post
Thank you for all your feedback. We just found out that when we lift Emily's hand up, she can walk.
I've tried calling many doctors for advice, but they all said the same thing: Bring her in so they can take a look at her. They don't give anything for free.
As much as I hate it, we have decided to wait a few days to see if she gets any better, if not we may have to leave her...there's nothing we can do. We can't afford a doctor, we don't have any health insurance. Thanks for your help though, I am going to keep trying to figure out what's wrong with her. I really hope she gets better, I love my daughter Emily to death!
There is at least one difference here. Hospitals can not, in most case, by law, refuse to help someone due to financial obligations.

Vets can refuse, do refuse, and there's a big difference between having to provide finances in advance, not knowing what the total is going to be, and having to be able to say, we'll pay it right now when you absolutely do not have the credit, savings, or income to do it.

Most of these posts were meant to be constructive, and to encourage someone to take their pet to the vet. No one is saying that a cat or animals life is not as important as a human child's, certainly not me. However, if the onus of taking a cat to the vet is going to be laid at the owner's feet, *any* owner's feet, it also needs to be laid at the feet of the vets who make it darned near impossible for you to take care of a pet unless you have emergency back up funds available. It is completely unfair to lay it at any pet owners feet when it is made extremely difficult for anyone who doesn't have steller credit (available), back up funding sources, or a particularly good vet who will work with you.

She came here for help, not judgement. And getting judged is not going to help her or as it appears to be most important, Princess.
post #38 of 57
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Originally Posted by CatsAreBetter View Post
There is at least one difference here. Hospitals can not, in most case, by law, refuse to help someone due to financial obligations.

Vets can refuse, do refuse, and there's a big difference between having to provide finances in advance, not knowing what the total is going to be, and having to be able to say, we'll pay it right now when you absolutely do not have the credit, savings, or income to do it.

Most of these posts were meant to be constructive, and to encourage someone to take their pet to the vet. No one is saying that a cat or animals life is not as important as a human child's, certainly not me. However, if the onus of taking a cat to the vet is going to be laid at the owner's feet, *any* owner's feet, it also needs to be laid at the feet of the vets who make it darned near impossible for you to take care of a pet unless you have emergency back up funds available. It is completely unfair to lay it at any pet owners feet when it is made extremely difficult for anyone who doesn't have steller credit (available), back up funding sources, or a particularly good vet who will work with you.

She came here for help, not judgement. And getting judged is not going to help her or as it appears to be most important, Princess.
I totally agree with you on that point, but being in cat rescue, I have talked to people that just "dont get it". I was mad that she was just going to leave her. I said take her to a no kill shelter that will at least make sure she is not in pain. If she loves her cat, I think she would even give her to someone if she cant afford to care for it.
And yes she came here for advice and everyone here gave her advice and then she basically said thanks, but Im not taking it.
post #39 of 57
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Originally Posted by lukin28 View Post
I totally agree with you on that point, but being in cat rescue, I have talked to people that just "dont get it". I was mad that she was just going to leave her. I said take her to a no kill shelter that will at least make sure she is not in pain. If she loves her cat, I think she would even give her to someone if she cant afford to care for it.
And yes she came here for advice and everyone here gave her advice and then she basically said thanks, but Im not taking it.
I understand what you're saying, and for the most part agree that cats or any animal should be taken to the vet when they're in jeopardy. I learned that the hard way, and am fortunately now in a position to take care of them financially.. at least to a certain degree. All of mine are on health plans, and we spend quite a bit of money on them... however.. I have not always been in a position to take care of them.

I think she may have been misunderstood when she said she'd have to leave her.. it came across as she'd abandon the cat, but she may have meant leave the cat with a rescue agency as you are suggesting. That's a really ambiguous statement. I would back what you are saying 100 percent if I knew for certain that's what she meant.

I do agree that she should take the cat to the vet. I also think that she probably came here to seek advice because she knew she was unable to afford the vet care, and hoped that someone with more knowledge would be able to assist. The problem is, she's gotten a lot of great advice about vet care assistance, but probably hasn't read it because.. the thread turned negative toward her. It doesn't matter how much advice, good or bad... and *a lot* of the advice on where to get financial help has been awesome.. if she's not around to read it because she's getting bashed.

We're not helping that cat by being negative. The advice given was right. The cat needs to go to the vet, as do they all when they're sick. This has been good advice all around, and I got as upset as everyone else at the thought that the cat might be abandoned, but the only way to get that kitty help is to provide her owner with an alternate avenue.

Honestly, she may be willing to take her to the shelter, or perhaps find some other method, but I doubt that we're going to hear how it turns out.

By the way, I do think the majority of the posts here have been extremely informative, and have offered superb links. Way to go on the knowledge guys!
post #40 of 57
I really hope this cat has been taken to a vet by now. Supernatural - if you're still reading please let us have an update. No-one's trying to be nasty to you but your cat's welfare is paramount here. If you can't take her to a vet then please do as someone earlier advised and take her to a no kill shelter where they can give her the treatment she needs. It may well be something simple and relatively easy (and inexpensive) to treat, but she really does need to be seen by a vet with the symptoms you described.
post #41 of 57
please take your cat to the vet, and please come back and explain what you meant by "leaving her". If you cannot afford a pet, you should not have one. A lot of vets offer Care Credit, which is a low interest payment plan for vet visits. Or get a low interest credit card to keep for emergencies only. Or, like I do, have a special savings account just for your animals. I have 3 dogs and 6 cats, so I cannot afford to not have money to get them treated, because with that many, something is always bound to pop up. If you cannot do this, please find a rescue willing to take her, because it is very selfish to not take her to the vet. She relies on you and you are letting her down.
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by fosterkitty View Post
If you cannot afford a pet, you should not have one.
But you have to understand that peoples circumstances can change,all of us are
really only one pay check from living on the streets,anything can happen in peoples
lives that can cause financial difficulties and we shouldn't judge people on their
financial situation because we know nothing about them or the sacrifices they have
made to keep their pet.

Supernaturel loves their cat and was good enough to give her a home.Hopefully Super
was brave enough to come back and see those links and maybe even just come back
and let us know what happened to Princess and how she is doing now,although I won't blame Super if they don't want us to know.
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by furryferals View Post
But you have to understand that peoples circumstances can change,all of us are
really only one pay check from living on the streets,anything can happen in peoples
lives that can cause financial difficulties and we shouldn't judge people on their
financial situation because we know nothing about them or the sacrifices they have
made to keep their pet.

Supernaturel loves their cat and was good enough to give her a home.Hopefully Super
was brave enough to come back and see those links and maybe even just come back
and let us know what happened to Princess and how she is doing now,although I won't blame Super if they don't want us to know.
you are so right, sometimes people pass judgement too quickly/easily/harshly
post #44 of 57
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But you have to understand that peoples circumstances can change,all of us are
really only one pay check from living on the streets,anything can happen in peoples
lives that can cause financial difficulties and we shouldn't judge people on their
financial situation because we know nothing about them or the sacrifices they have
made to keep their pet.
I do understand that circumstances change, I really do, but I also have a plan in place in case my circumstances change. I have money that is absolutely not touched under any circumstance, it is only for my animals. Now, I know the average person does not need this, but I have 6 cats and 3 dogs. Anything can happen, and it takes a lot more money to keep up with a crew like mine than just one cat. BUT, that being said, there is no excuse to not take a cat that obviously has something wrong with it, something as extreme as not being able to use its hind legs. Get out a credit card, borrow some cash, make an effort to ask your vet if you can make payments, sell something. Giving up and getting rid of your cat is not going to solve the problem. When I started out, and got my first cat, I discovered he needed surgery to get rid of an umbilical hernia that wasn't taken care of at the shelter. I'll tell you that every bill I had that month was late being paid, but my cat had his surgery. I was 19 years old at the time.
post #45 of 57
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Originally Posted by jaycee View Post
you are so right, sometimes people pass judgement too quickly/easily/harshly
But no one really did! This forum is so great because everyone is so nice. I have seen some forums where they are totally nasty to people with opinions different then the majority. One forum I am on has a smilie eating a bag of popcorn to post when the conversation is about to get out of hand and they are ready for the show which I think is ridiculous. Especially when there are about 10 responses of just that smilie.

Anyways, I too hope that Supernatural comes back and lets us know what became of her cat. Hopefully it is just a blockage and they tried some cat lax to help. Sounds a little more serious though. I hope they called the vet and took the cat in for an initial visit and discussed payment options.

If not then I feel awful for his poor kitty. She really needs a vet if she is in pain like that. Hopefully this all turns out alright.
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by Jen View Post
But no one really did! This forum is so great because everyone is so nice. I have seen some forums where they are totally nasty to people with opinions different then the majority. One forum I am on has a smilie eating a bag of popcorn to post when the conversation is about to get out of hand and they are ready for the show which I think is ridiculous. Especially when there are about 10 responses of just that smilie.

Anyways, I too hope that Supernatural comes back and lets us know what became of her cat. Hopefully it is just a blockage and they tried some cat lax to help. Sounds a little more serious though. I hope they called the vet and took the cat in for an initial visit and discussed payment options.

If not then I feel awful for his poor kitty. She really needs a vet if she is in pain like that. Hopefully this all turns out alright.
well, i think that telling someone they shouldnt own pets in a situation like this (and we dont even know all the circumstances) is a bit harsh and just plain mean but you are right that this is one of the nicer forums out there, i have seen threads as you described on some forums they can get SO nasty and ive seen that bag of popcorn smilie too, yeah thats just sick.
post #47 of 57
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Originally Posted by fosterkitty View Post
I do understand that circumstances change, I really do, but I also have a plan in place in case my circumstances change. I have money that is absolutely not touched under any circumstance, it is only for my animals. Now, I know the average person does not need this, but I have 6 cats and 3 dogs. Anything can happen, and it takes a lot more money to keep up with a crew like mine than just one cat. BUT, that being said, there is no excuse to not take a cat that obviously has something wrong with it, something as extreme as not being able to use its hind legs. Get out a credit card, borrow some cash, make an effort to ask your vet if you can make payments, sell something. Giving up and getting rid of your cat is not going to solve the problem. When I started out, and got my first cat, I discovered he needed surgery to get rid of an umbilical hernia that wasn't taken care of at the shelter. I'll tell you that every bill I had that month was late being paid, but my cat had his surgery. I was 19 years old at the time.

I think you make a number of valid points here. However, I think that it addresses only a portion of the population that would probably not have the problem of not having the money to take an animal to the vet.

For people who have the ability to put a plan in place to have money to cover vet bills that come up, it probably means that they're not juggling *which* bill they're going to pay every month, and juggling termination notices because they're not making enough income to pay all of the bills and are constantly on the wheel trying to catch up. It takes a lot of time, and if you're in that situation... you probably do not have a credit card, especially with a low interest rate, with any available balance at all.

If you're in a situation where you're struggling and don't have credit.. it probably means that you don't have relatives that can help you out because it probably means you come from a poor background, which means your family doesn't have the money or the credit, or the savings to lend you.

Supernatural is being lumped into a category here that suggests if she had the means to do any of that, she's simply choosing *not* to spend her money and making the choice to easily and willingly let her cat suffer. No one can be sure, but I'm willing to bet that's not the case.

And one more point, if you have something worthy of selling (may or may not be the case), a pawn shop is going to give you a pittance of whatever it is is worth, and to sell it the proper way.. is going to take days. The point here was to not make the cat wait days, right?
post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by CatsAreBetter View Post
I think you make a number of valid points here. However, I think that it addresses only a portion of the population that would probably not have the problem of not having the money to take an animal to the vet.

For people who have the ability to put a plan in place to have money to cover vet bills that come up, it probably means that they're not juggling *which* bill they're going to pay every month, and juggling termination notices because they're not making enough income to pay all of the bills and are constantly on the wheel trying to catch up. It takes a lot of time, and if you're in that situation... you probably do not have a credit card, especially with a low interest rate, with any available balance at all.

If you're in a situation where you're struggling and don't have credit.. it probably means that you don't have relatives that can help you out because it probably means you come from a poor background, which means your family doesn't have the money or the credit, or the savings to lend you.

Supernatural is being lumped into a category here that suggests if she had the means to do any of that, she's simply choosing *not* to spend her money and making the choice to easily and willingly let her cat suffer. No one can be sure, but I'm willing to bet that's not the case.

And one more point, if you have something worthy of selling (may or may not be the case), a pawn shop is going to give you a pittance of whatever it is is worth, and to sell it the proper way.. is going to take days. The point here was to not make the cat wait days, right?
very well said heather
post #49 of 57
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Originally Posted by jaycee View Post
well, i think that telling someone they shouldnt own pets is a bit harsh and just plain mean but you are right that is one of the nicer forums out there, i have seen threads as you described on some forums they can get SO nasty and ive seen that bag of popcorn smilie too, yeah thats just sick.
oh crap ya I forgot about that comment. Kind mean, but it could be worse! Anyways, I know what it is like to be low on money and praying that nothing happens to your cats! I have 7 cats and 3 fosters at the moment. But times have just been tough right now. If an emergency came up I would be screwed. But for little things, my teacher is like an expert on home remedies and alternatives to going to the vet, so I am set for the small stuff!
post #50 of 57
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Originally Posted by CatsAreBetter View Post
For people who have the ability to put a plan in place to have money to cover vet bills that come up, it probably means that they're not juggling *which* bill they're going to pay every month, and juggling termination notices because they're not making enough income to pay all of the bills and are constantly on the wheel trying to catch up. It takes a lot of time, and if you're in that situation... you probably do not have a credit card, especially with a low interest rate, with any available balance at all.

If you're in a situation where you're struggling and don't have credit.. it probably means that you don't have relatives that can help you out because it probably means you come from a poor background, which means your family doesn't have the money or the credit, or the savings to lend you.
And one more point, if you have something worthy of selling (may or may not be the case), a pawn shop is going to give you a pittance of whatever it is is worth, and to sell it the proper way.. is going to take days. The point here was to not make the cat wait days, right?
You know what your talking about

It doesn't matter how much savings you have in the bank(and believe me I've found
that out myself) or how much you ' plan' for unexpected circumstances,Life doesn't
work around any of us or our finances,Even millionaires have found themselves homeless in a matter of a couple of months so it can happen to anybody.

"There for the grace of God go I "
post #51 of 57
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I think you make a number of valid points here. However, I think that it addresses only a portion of the population that would probably not have the problem of not having the money to take an animal to the vet.
I really am not trying to be mean here, especially since I only joined the forum a few days ago. I am trying to say that, yes, I understand maybe pushing back a vet appoinment for annual vaccinations, etc. These things are not life threatening. I have done this myself. My cats are UTD and strictly indoors, so the chances of them getting anything are pretty slim. I'm just saying that, in this situation, where the cat cannot walk on its hind legs, is a little more serious. It is inhumane to let the animal suffer. There is obviously something wrong, and most likely it will not cure itself. The cat needs to see a vet, plain and simple.
post #52 of 57
I've always agreed that the cat needs to see the vet. In every one of my posts I've stated that, and I agree with you completely. I'm sure that the cat is in very serious condition. Ultimately, my goal was to see the cat get treatment, I'm just saying it's probably not a case of she can pay for it but chooses not to.
post #53 of 57
everyone, and im pretty sure supernatural is as well, is in agreement that the cat needs to see a vet.
post #54 of 57
Please remember NO NEGATIVE feedback .... oh and I aint yelling just stressing...
And just a brush up of the Rules and guidlines

1. No online advice can replace direct veterinary intervention. If you suspect that your cat may be ill, please contact your vet immediately. You are welcome to look for advice in the health forum while waiting for that appointment, but never delay proper veterinary care waiting for Internet advice. Remember that cats, and especially kittens, are very adept in keeping pain to themselves and delaying treatment may cause irreversible damage.
that is just the first one

I do hope the kitty is doing well and that the appropriate care has been saught....
post #55 of 57
Fingers crossed the kitty has been seen by a vet and is doing ok now.

Over here the new animal welfare act places a legal duty on pet owners to care for their animals (previously owners could only be prosecuted once cruelty had taken place). One of the requirements is to prevent and treat illness and injury so an owner could be prosecuted for failing to take an animal to a vet. And I think that's right. An animal's basic needs aren't secondary to ours. If they need veterinary treatment they need it. I understand that people's circumstances change but if someone finds themselves in a position where they can no longer afford an initial vet consultation then I think they have an obligation to surrender the animal to a no kill shelter.
post #56 of 57
I just don't even understand how anyone can think it's an acceptable option to not take their pet to the vet.
post #57 of 57
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Originally Posted by bemyonlyone View Post
I just don't even understand how anyone can think it's an acceptable option to not take their pet to the vet.
no one, not even the OP, has said its an acceptable option.
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