Help with Itching Plz!

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Originally Posted by everythingrosie

Shorty,
Am supposed to go get Frontline at vet but he is a good hour drive from here and the weather is challenging today...would I have to take the cats for that injection by him, or could he give me it and I do it myself? I want to try and avoid driving back and forth several times or having to lug cats in this weather...I don't think I need Frontline -= see NO fleas or such. They are indoor cats and sleep on my bed; I would know. Their skin is beautiful too.

I think this is a reaction from what once was, and the REACTION has continued, not the fleas.

My thanks, more than you know,

everythingrosie
I think that you can give Fronline to him yourself. I do not buy any medicines from Wal-Mart or anything like that, the vets stuff is better.

Good luck and I hope the itching stops soon.
 

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I would call your vet and ask him if he can give you the shot to take home. Not too many vets will do this though because like like to see the condition of the cat before giving the injection. Like I siad though, I would call and ask...
 
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Dear Shorty & Kind Others:

Well, I did call the vet and they said come right over, so I braved the winds and went. Vet said, "I don't use depo-medrol; it has been known to cause heart disease." Ok, I said. Then he proceeded (in less than ten minutes - no kidding) to give them a shot of the dang same stuff he did once before!

I was so mad! (but didnt say it). I got charged 50+ dollars for something he told me would last weeks, and here it is the fourth day, and they are itching like before.!
I am so angry!

He used Kennalog. (again). It did Nothing. Gave them runny noses the first night and one night of increased urine. That's it. I remember that is what it did a year ago!

I think it is unethical to charge me $50+ for less than ten minutes to do nothing. Please advise: would you call him up and tell him you want a refund?
I have pretty much decided I need to get yet another vet!
Currently I am working in a very rural area, and am willing to try a vet out here. A thoughtful co-worker brought me some names today unprompted. He empathized with my frustration.

Thanks for listening,
everythingrosie
 
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I had written that the first vet I ever used put the Revolution in their ears for mites...that is incorrect. She TOLD me (that's how I knew the name) she used that, but I checked my bill. It said, "Accorex."
Gosh, I hope she put the Accorex.....

Anyway, I thought I'd set that straight!

Thanks,

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Kenalog is another type of steroid. Its generic name is Triamcinolone. It is not as long acting as the depomedrol. Any steroid is danerous if it is used long term.
I have never personally heard of it causing heart problems. I will have to ask the vets I work with on monday though. We use it regularly with animals who have flea allergies and I dont think we would if it caused heart problems. We also have a Vet I work with who graduated from Auburn with the past year. I would think she would be very current on information like that...But like I said... I will ask them Monday.
In the meantime, Here is a website that lists side effects and usages of steroids
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?articleid=1422

No offense to your vet, but I dont understand why he would give the same thing again. Obviously if it didn't work the first time, it more then likely wont work the second time...
 
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Hi Shorty,
Again my thanks. You have confirmed my frustration not only with this vet, but the other three.
Would you believe the first I took the cats to wouldn't even close the door - with all the other dogs and such running around? Like he was in a coma & could give a darn! My hand was in a cast and I said, "Can you do something for the earmites...I can't do it myself with my hand like this? He then handed me some stuff that I needed to do eveyday in their ears...blah, blah...wasn't even listening! I stared at him.

I now also see an ad - which makes my blood boil - for the one who did nothing but hand me a pricey bill, act as if my cats had leprosy , and pushed "duck & pea" at me. All that after cutting my cats between the toes and making them BOTH bleed without ever explaining to beforehand. That made the bill more too. The results were?
My cats are perfectly healthy.
(I knew that because my cats are unrelated and how in the heck could they suddenly at-the-same-time develop a food allergy to the same thing??)
Geez.

This latest vet has NEVER - from Day One - ever said a word about flea allergies. I only first heard of that - not from one of four vets - but from a co-worker at my new job just before I joined this forum.

OK, OK...depomedrol...how long (would you ask at your place of work) would I have to wait before I could give that safely to my babies on the heels of what this last vet did? I have the names of 3-4 new vets around here. I am currently working on the Navajo Reservation and perhaps, in this more rural setting, I may encounter a more satisfactory vet...I don't know.

Could depomedrol be given in the wake of Kennalog at all?

Thanks for hangin' in here with me. You actually have helped me breathe a little easier by confirming my gut...my kitties send their best too

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I don't know if this is done, I know people (me) have done it with doctors for humans. Is there any way to possibly interview a vet before hand so you can get a feel of whether they will listen to you or not?

I once had a doctor, only one I could get with the insurance I had, who kinda spaced out when I spoke - felt like I was just in a revolving door of patients to him. I have never been a confrontational, outspoken person. Once, I found myself at home in tears and so angry because he hadn't even bothered to address the issue I came to him with. So I called the office and lit into the nurse who came to the phone. I was firm, respectful but I didn't back down, suggesting that perhaps if he cannot see his patients as people perhaps he shouldn't be a doctor. When I arrived for my next appointment, the doc pulled up a chair, sat down and actually looked at me for the first time. He listened and paid attention. I was in shock! After that, he was always personable with me.

Anyway, I guess I am trying to say that not all docs and all vets are worthy and some just need a wake up call.

Maybe now that you are on the rez and have more of a small town atmosphere, you can ask around to other people to see what they have to say about their local vets. Most will willingly share good stories and not-so good stories.

You deserve, and your furry friends deserve to be treated much better than you have been. The last vet Sebastian had declared him a vicious animal and marked that on his chart, just because he didn't like having his temp taken! No biting or scratching, just tried to get off the table. So all the techs walked around him like he was a ferocious critter. It was ridiculous. Seb is a lover and tries to befriend everyone. No other vet has ever labeled him as such. I was intimidated by this vet and I think she knew it. My way of dealing with it was to choose another vet office and a much nicer vet. She lost my money and my future recommendation.

I am tired so I hope all of this makes some sense! Good luck in your search.
 
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Yes, Bonnie,

thanks! I needed that Positivity!
I have a Loving Sebastian too! He is my baby boy. Did you know it means, "magnificent?"[g]

You named it: with this last fellow, I just feel like he was going through motions and his brain is elsewhere. He was a referral to me over Xmas dinner with friends (he's related to them), and I was so upset from the other three.
...geez, I must sound like either a nut or a chronic comlainer...I swear, I'm not![g]

I think I WILL try to interview the next vet in advance...I am waiting to get up some more energy before setting out there again.

Blessings,
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You don't sound like either. You sound frustrated which is only natural. Let us know how this works out, okay?
 

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Most vets are going to recommend you wait at LEAST a couple of weeks before trying a differant type of steriod injection... Cats can handle steriods pretty well but it can be bad for them to get steriod injections all the time. I will ask the vets at work tonight since I have to go pick up my sick kitty this evening anyway... (Its suppose to be my day off but of course that never works out too well with a house full of special needs animals)
 

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Sorry but I haven't asked yet... things went very badly the other day...
My sick kitty (Howard) was diagnosed with cancer in his intestines and brain yesterday. I couldn't let him suffer anymore... so sadly, last night Howard crossed the rainbow bridge
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I will do my best to remember to ask tommorrow though... I know you understand my delay...
 
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Shorty,

will say a Prayer & send some Light.

everythingrosie
 
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Hi Shorty,

Am just checking in with you...are u ok?

Is that what you do - take care of "special needs kitties?" How warm & wonderful of you.

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I'm doing better. It's been a little rough... Howard was the first cat I ever got. I had him since I was 7 years old. Its been really strange to not have him around anymore. And yes, I do take in special needs animals. Neville has osteogenesis imperfecta (brittle bone disease), Weeble has cerebellar hypoplasia (she cant control her muscles right so she walks like she is drunk), Jennifer has hyperthyroidism, Pheelicks and Spaz are prone to UTIs, My Husky, mika, has seperation axienty, and the rest of them where all rescued in some way or another.

As for your itching... Your probally going to have to wait at least 4-6 weeks before getting another steroid injection. The vets I work with hadn't heard anything about depomedrol causing anykind of heart problems, but they said that they would look into it just to make sure... Sorry for taking so long...

Its been a tough week... my plumbing in my house is messed up... we have to replace part of the line... My washer and dryer both broke down.. and I have been having a flea problem... the fleas have been jumping on ME since all the animals in the house are on flea prevention. ARGH!! when it rains, it pours...

Are your babies doing any better? Is their itching still as bad as before?
 
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Good Morning, Shorty,

The itching is back to "normal." [tongue in cheek]
I have marked the calendar and will wait till 4-6 weeks have passed. Thank you so much for caring and asking about the steroids.

Your house sounds like mine! I am currently working several hours away from my house and so am living in a rented one, but my "real" one doesn't have a bathroom sink! Needed some emergency plumbing almost two years ago, and haven't had the chance to re-install. Oh well. It's also in various stages of painting, tile laying, etc. Am doing it all myself and learning (badly) [g] as I go.

I had the opportunity recently to buy a well-maintained second vehicle, so my next big goal is to lengthen the garage (back to its original size - someone shortened it in its 50 yr life), so I can house my precious truck and then drive the second. Lots of vehicle thefts right out of the yard, so opening the garage will be cheaper and more secure than a fence. I want to give the truck a well-deserved rest too.[g]

I call my house my "art project," and at times - like plumbing - my "science project!"[vbg]

Have decided not to return to that vet anymore; I really feel his head is in the clouds (or his bank account) & not focused on what he should be doing - at least not for my boys.

Will keep in touch,
everythingrosie
 
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BTW,

I just LOVE being rated as a "kitten!" How sweet!

everythingkitty(oops, I mean rosie)[g]
 
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