Exactly what I was thinking... it seems like she was under for quite a while to be that shade of blue, plus who knows how long Derek was working on her before they got to the hospital...
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That was quite an episode! I'm not saying I want Meredith to die, but I also wouldn't be completely heartbroken. I think they focus too much on her and she can be very whiney. But I do not think they will kill her right when things are going pretty well with McDreamy. I wonder who it will be??
Because of the water temperature, she was extremely hypothermic. And there is a saying that you're not dead until you're warm and dead. When you're hypothermic, your metabolism and body functions slow, so you use less oxygen and make less wastes like carbon dioxide. Therefore, not breathing for 25 minutes when you're less than 80 degrees does less damage than if you were 98.5 degrees. Ever hear of little kids fallng through ponds and recovering even though it took half an hour to find them under the ice? Same prinicple. And an extreme example from a few years back.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1192006.stm
That having been said, she is not a little kid and that would make her chances in real life much much lower. A kid in her situation could be pulled out after the time she spent down there and have a significant if not full recovery. He also might die. Or anything in between. The brain is a funny thing. But an adult......harder to live through. They couldn't take it as long as a kid, couldn't come back from as much damage.
I think that, because she's not real, Meredith could. Not a kid, but she is fictional and has a writting staff behind her so........The fact that they've been trying to revive her for 20 minutes gives one pause, of course
Wow! That is really neat to know!!! Thanks for sharing that little tidbit with usOriginally Posted by Leli
Because of the water temperature, she was extremely hypothermic. And there is a saying that you're not dead until you're warm and dead. When you're hypothermic, your metabolism and body functions slow, so you use less oxygen and make less wastes like carbon dioxide. Therefore, not breathing for 25 minutes when you're less than 80 degrees does less damage than if you were 98.5 degrees. Ever hear of little kids fallng through ponds and recovering even though it took half an hour to find them under the ice? Same prinicple. And an extreme example from a few years back.....http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1192006.stm
That having been said, she is not a little kid and that would make her chances in real life much much lower. A kid in her situation could be pulled out after the time she spent down there and have a significant if not full recovery. He also might die. Or anything in between. The brain is a funny thing. But an adult......harder to live through. They couldn't take it as long as a kid, couldn't come back from as much damage.
I think that, because she's not real, Meredith could. Not a kid, but she is fictional and has a writting staff behind her so........The fact that they've been trying to revive her for 20 minutes gives one pause, of coursebut I think she'll make it since she's still so cold.
No problem!Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR
Wow! That is really neat to know!!! Thanks for sharing that little tidbit with us
It'll be interesting to see where this goes for Meredith. Because she could totally swim, so I don't get why she didn't try to. Or scream. Maybe she wasn't supposed to know how to swim, but Ellen Pompeo does for sure because that was not the drowning of a nonswimmer. Anyway, IMO that was a suicide attempt, probably from the aftermath of her mother's speech while lucid, at least in part.
Very interesting! I had heard (maybe on another forum) that "warm and dead" part but had no idea what it meant... thanks for explaining! I'm sure that will come into play.
Yeah, watching the first few minutes before she went underwater, I was waiting to see that something was caught on her foot or see her struggle... but it seemed like she just... disappeared, like her voiceover said.
Personally, yes her mother was a... brat. But she has a good thing with Derek, she's doing well as a surgeon... I don't really see how she thought she'd have to drown herself, you know? But that's just me. I'm really looking forward to Thursday to see how this plays out.
The thing about Meredith is that she really is dark and twisty. We saw with her mother a big reason why. And yes, she and Derek are in the riding off into the sunset phase now. But also remember that she's really never had a relationship that was positive. Her mother was overbearing and emotionally absent. Her father took off when she was five. The Cheif went back to his wife when Mer was five. All the guys she's slept with after a night a the bar don't make it 24 hours. Derek left for his wife. Now, all of a sudden, she's supposed to live happily ever after and I just think she doesn't know what to do......for her it's always been drama, conflict, forces pulling her apart. If the guy is always around (and comes back after the fight, remember how she didn't expect Derek to?), it's like new territory for her. That, on top of her mom, and her already dark and twistyness might have put her in a desparate moment. I think she'll come out of it stronger, but maybe she needed to do it to face up to some of her baggage. Because even though she isn't the one who loaded it on, she IS the one who insists on carrying it with her everywhere she goes......
Did that make any sense at all?
nooooooooo i read to much , here in london they only just stoped showing season 2 , were waiting for season 3. were on the cliff hanging with it be the vet or mcdreamy. she cant die , night can derek for that matter . i probley would never wetch it , again , i love the show can never miss it
Oh no, now you know too much!! Stop reading this thread!!
I was frustrated when I saw Meredith surface and then she seemed to choose to go back down..I was yelling at the tv..."What is wrong with you?..FIGHT, you idiot!!" I couldn't help it..Then when she was drown and almost dying on the table in the ER, I was bawling saying "Meredith, why did you do that?"..Yes I was talking to Meredith..(I was already crying because the rest of the show was sad too with all the family members crying that there loved ones had been killed),,
Anyway, she was flatlined in the end of the last show, and how can they bring her back from that? I hope they can or I will be so pissed
Anyway, she was flatlined in the end of the last show, and how can they bring her back from that? I hope they can or I will be so pissed
I don't think she ever had a strong beat. I am pretty sure cold water stops the heart. Remember the heart transplants, they had drop the bodies temperature and they bring it back up.Originally Posted by Trouts mom
I was frustrated when I saw Meredith surface and then she seemed to choose to go back down..I was yelling at the tv..."What is wrong with you?..FIGHT, you idiot!!" I couldn't help it..Then when she was drown and almost dying on the table in the ER, I was bawling saying "Meredith, why did you do that?"..Yes I was talking to Meredith..(I was already crying because the rest of the show was sad too with all the family members crying that there loved ones had been killed),,
Anyway, she was flatlined in the end of the last show, and how can they bring her back from that? I hope they can or I will be so pissed
She will live. I just hate the cliffhanger. Also friday nights they usually repeat Thursday's show but it was re-runs. I was so mad!
Yeah, you made sense. I just hope that this won't be the end of Meredith and Derek, you know? I love them together...
That's okay, I was yelling at the TV too. But it was funny, at the end of the previous episode I was watching and I said, quietly, "Meredith?" Like, what just happened?Originally Posted by Trouts mom
I was frustrated when I saw Meredith surface and then she seemed to choose to go back down..I was yelling at the tv..."What is wrong with you?..FIGHT, you idiot!!" I couldn't help it..Then when she was drown and almost dying on the table in the ER, I was bawling saying "Meredith, why did you do that?"..Yes I was talking to Meredith..(I was already crying because the rest of the show was sad too with all the family members crying that there loved ones had been killed),,
Anyway, she was flatlined in the end of the last show, and how can they bring her back from that? I hope they can or I will be so pissed
Time for my 2 cents.
First off, in my medical opinion - Mer is DEAD. With a BIG BIG D. We are not talking mild, moderate, or severe hypothermia, she dove all the way into the "Extreme" category (which is interesting, she really wasnt under or in that cold of water for that long to have cooled off that much). In the time they worked on her, she was warmed to 81, which is all the way up to Severe - not good enough, ESPECIALLY for an adult. However, being Grays Anatomy, theyll take HUGE HUGE HUGE liberties with the hypothermia thing, and I agree with Leli: Mer will spend time in the oxygen tent as we all hold our breath waiting for her to wake up. And she will, at which time it will turn out that moments before, her mother died.
To be honest and Im sure horrifying to some of you, Id like to see Mer dead and stay dead. I dislike her. However, I like everyone else who woudl not be the same in the absence of her so fine.
As far as burke goes, I say fire the actor and Hire old-benton from ER to seamlessly take his place
First off, in my medical opinion - Mer is DEAD. With a BIG BIG D. We are not talking mild, moderate, or severe hypothermia, she dove all the way into the "Extreme" category (which is interesting, she really wasnt under or in that cold of water for that long to have cooled off that much). In the time they worked on her, she was warmed to 81, which is all the way up to Severe - not good enough, ESPECIALLY for an adult. However, being Grays Anatomy, theyll take HUGE HUGE HUGE liberties with the hypothermia thing, and I agree with Leli: Mer will spend time in the oxygen tent as we all hold our breath waiting for her to wake up. And she will, at which time it will turn out that moments before, her mother died.
To be honest and Im sure horrifying to some of you, Id like to see Mer dead and stay dead. I dislike her. However, I like everyone else who woudl not be the same in the absence of her so fine.
As far as burke goes, I say fire the actor and Hire old-benton from ER to seamlessly take his place
Well.....I have to voice the other side of the fence. I am a HUGE O.C. fan. I was upset when they killed of Marissa too. However, I did NOT stop watching it, and I am very solid in my belief that this has been the BEST season of the OC yet, with the only possible exception being season 1. Without Marissa there has been able to be other storylines as the focus, and other characters being well developed. I definately feel I "know" everyone better now that Marissa, and her spotlight is gone. I think she would have been good in this season as well, but probably wouldnt stand for not being THE centre of everything....
I guess what Im saying is, that IMO, it is VERY possible to kill off a main, indeed "THE" main character and have the show still thrive. Now, I do admit that the OC has been cancelled, but that was always the assumption: once highschool was finished, it couldn't continue- Were not talking a 90210 here. I was actually surprised this season even existed, but very very glad.
They can't kill off the character that the show is named after. Otherwise, it would be pointless - you can't have Grey's Anatomy without a Grey.
And I'm sure that they will take great liberties with the medical part of hypothermia. It is, after all, fiction. While they do have a medical authority on set as an advisor, the story will be much more important than the medical accuracy.
Although, they did say, "Tune in next week for the devestating conclusion..." Did they mean devestating as in more death from the ferry accident, or about Meredith in particular?
ETA: Did anyone else find it strange that in the middle of a huge medical catastrophy that they have ALL the best surgeons in there working on Mer, and they pulled ALL of her friends off the floor to just sit there and watch?
And I'm sure that they will take great liberties with the medical part of hypothermia. It is, after all, fiction. While they do have a medical authority on set as an advisor, the story will be much more important than the medical accuracy.
Although, they did say, "Tune in next week for the devestating conclusion..." Did they mean devestating as in more death from the ferry accident, or about Meredith in particular?
ETA: Did anyone else find it strange that in the middle of a huge medical catastrophy that they have ALL the best surgeons in there working on Mer, and they pulled ALL of her friends off the floor to just sit there and watch?
That OC thing was awful, I can't beleive there was no warning or Marissa to die...BUT I didn't mind, I found her character to be very whiney and annoying as well..always "woe is me"..Gimme a break. I know Mere is the same way, but I guess I don't mind her because she is a better actor
Tomorrow, yay!
