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post #1 of 13
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So i was talking to the wife, She told me that her old maid that had been with her family for years left a few days ago, to retire. So the wife went and called a company to hire a new one. couple of days later she got a new one. As we were talking she told me the new maid was 15 years old!!!!!!. I told her fire the maid, and tell her to go back to school. itta said her family does not have the money to send her to school(thre are no real public schools there. You have to pay the school to send your kid there) I said, fine, then we pay for her to go to school. Well that did not work out cause the girl said she does not need school all she needs is a good husband, in a few years. Itta said she will fire the girl if i want, but all that will happen is the company will send her someone else, and her family does not get extra money until the girl gets back to work.

then i came accross this new story at the bbc. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6360721.stm

now i really feel no matter which choice i make is the wrong one. at least with itta family the girl wont have to worry about having a bad work place, but i still dont feel its right to have someone that age working as maid.......... there is no right choice here. How i think i will let the girl stay, I want itta to keep trying to get her to agree to go to school. I dont know what else. to do here.

Is there a right choice?
post #2 of 13
Not much of a choice either way, perhaps as you said it would be best to keep the new girl so you know her working conditions will be okay.
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
now i really feel no matter which choice i make is the wrong one. at least with itta family the girl wont have to worry about having a bad work place, but i still dont feel its right to have someone that age working as maid.......... there is no right choice here. How i think i will let the girl stay, I want itta to keep trying to get her to agree to go to school. I dont know what else. to do here.

Is there a right choice?
If by right you mean ideal, no.

If by right you mean a choice that minimises the possible bad and maximises the possible good, than yes. The girl, for the moment at least - is pretty clearly going to be somebody's maid.

With Itta's family it she has options (like school), and a safe work environment. I think that is the most ethical option available to you, and the best one for her.

Try not to let it get you down. A lot of times in life we can't actually fix anything, just do our best to clean up the mess afterwards.
post #4 of 13
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yea, i agree. But i dont like it. leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
i know i cant change the world to fit into my idea of right and wrong.
but does not mean i have to like it.
post #5 of 13
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yea, i agree. But i dont like it. leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
i know i cant change the world to fit into my idea of right and wrong.
but does not mean i have to like it.
It's morbid poli sci humour, but try repeating "you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't quit the game" to yourself. It's like an IR student's Litany Against Fear.

The other thing that sometimes helps is checking the Doomsday Clock, but this isn't a good month for that.
post #6 of 13
Not a good situation either way, Bruce. Just do what your heart tells you, it is usually right.

And life sucks a lot of the time. You just have to do the best you can for you and those around you, and hope things turn out okay.
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And life sucks a lot of the time. You just have to do the best you can for you and those around you, and hope things turn out okay.
This is true.

Don't let it get to you too much Bruce
post #8 of 13
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Originally Posted by Satai View Post
It's morbid poli sci humour, but try repeating "you can't win, you can't break even, and you can't quit the game" to yourself. It's like an IR student's Litany Against Fear.
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lol that the issue, i always look for the way to win, to make thing right well, at least we can try and talk her into going to school. Its just not fair, that a 15 year old has to work to help support her family. she should be going to school, having fun, and working a part time job. but that if my view.

thanks everyone.
post #9 of 13
Would it be possible for itta's family to teach her basic education? I.e. math so that she can pay bills, how to read (or help her reading if she already knows), etc?
post #10 of 13
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Would it be possible for itta's family to teach her basic education? I.e. math so that she can pay bills, how to read (or help her reading if she already knows), etc?
i dont know what her basic education level is right now. From what i was told she does not feel she needs to learn more then she knows now. i dont know or understand. that way of thinking. there is always something new to learn, new to see.
post #11 of 13
Well I guess then if you have that mentality that someone else will take care of you, then there isn't much education that is needed.

From our perspective it sounds sad, but from hers, with that whole second class citizen thing in Indonesia, I'm sure that's what they look for to survive life.
post #12 of 13
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yea, sad is the way it makes me feel,
post #13 of 13
At least you care, even if you can't change things.
And, she's working in a decent environment in Itta's family.
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