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post #1 of 13
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Doing my rounds on my favorite websites today I found this article: http://kotaku.com/gaming/ds/can-the-...ers-234928.php

Now this got me thinking, do you think the way that news stations are currently handling the issue of child predators is helpful or harmful? To me, it's gotten to the point where I roll my eyes and change the channel. Shows like "To Catch a Predator" have become almost laughable. Does anyone else have an opinion about this?
post #2 of 13
Yes and no, they do try to scare you to make your watch jsut for the ratings. Most cases of child predators is with people that the kid already knows. Of course the worst case is some stranger getting to your kid.

Even with that news cast how many mom;s and dad went to talk to there kids? or took the DS away? i would bet not many. I did not even know the DS had a chat on it.
and i am a gamer. Who they made the effort to scare people. The information itself would be useful. Since how many mom and dad really read what they buy? how many missed the big M on the cover of grand thef auto, and then later blamed the company for making the game.

i see To Catch a Predator as being illegal. or should be. i see the whole show as being a set up. and some of the stuff they even said the bait said, is doing nothing but beggiing the guy to come over. how yea the guy is sick, but i thinks it wrong to do it the way they are.
post #3 of 13
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
Yes and no, they do try to scare you to make your watch jsut for the ratings. Most cases of child predators is with people that the kid already knows. Of course the worst case is some stranger getting to your kid.

Even with that news cast how many mom;s and dad went to talk to there kids? or took the DS away? i would bet not many. I did not even know the DS had a chat on it.
and i am a gamer. Who they made the effort to scare people. The information itself would be useful. Since how many mom and dad really read what they buy? how many missed the big M on the cover of grand thef auto, and then later blamed the company for making the game.

i see To Catch a Predator as being illegal. or should be. i see the whole show as being a set up. and some of the stuff they even said the bait said, is doing nothing but beggiing the guy to come over. how yea the guy is sick, but i thinks it wrong to do it the way they are.
That's because most people DON'T use Picto-Chat. It's one of the worst features of the system. Here's the deal, you need a friend code to even talk to a person via that system. So here's what a child molster would have to do: 1. Have a Nintendo DS with in 300 feet of your child. 2. Have their friend code. 3. Send a message that THEY CAN'T DELETE!

It's just frustrating that news stations try to create fear where fear shouldn't exsit.
post #4 of 13
The did To cathc a predator in my home town. It was really scarry to see how many people they caught. But when it came time to going to court, most of the charges were dropped since they didn't do anything.

I think shows like that do some good. They let people know just how many sick-o's are out there.
post #5 of 13
I think that people should worry more about the Internet than the DS. Its faster and easier to talk on there.
post #6 of 13
To Catch a Predator and likewise are good. The internet is one of the most fantastic things to ever happen, in the eyes of a chomo, and making them more and more paranoid that their disgusting faces (or more, in some of their cases) will be on national tv is a fantastic thing for anyone else. You can tell its working. On the first shows, the "people" just walked right in, knowing they weren't gonna get caught. The more recent shows in the series more and more "people" who show up are paranoid, don't want to come in, try to run away... they're getting scared, and they should be.

As for it being illegal, why? The cops have done this for decades. Undercover prostitutes catch johns, undercover cops are in high schools to catch drug dealers, it's no different. They did do something illegal-- showing up at a house with the intent to have sex with, booze, and corrupt a minor. That is illegal, even if there is no minor there.

Is it any less of a crime than if they really did it and got away with it?
post #7 of 13
the cops are not allowed to ask for sex, or money.
how in the TV show the the bait, is often making contact asking the guy to come
over. like i said granted never a good idea to trust people on the net.
post #8 of 13
It is helpfull. Already in many of the areas where they have done the shows- stricter laws have been passed concerning issues of statuatory rape and other things of that nature. I wish they would come here and do a show- they'd have tons weirdos show up And i know Colin and the rest of the police station they work with would get tons of satisfaction out of locking sickos like that up and getting them off the streets that our family's play on. Also while we're on the topic- i highly recommend ya'll looking up your addresses on www.familywatchdog.us and familiarizing yourself with the violators/registered offenders in your area. There were TONS near my duplex! One lived not even two streets over from the schools! It's rediculious! Reason # 4,592 i'm moving in with Colin and getting out of my neighborhood....if murders and violence weren't enough motivation- the amount of affenders near my duplex is definitely enough
post #9 of 13
personally i thik they have done to catch a predator into the ground. seems every time i turn on dateline thats what it is. that being said i have done some work with the group they work with, and its a worthy cause.
post #10 of 13
I don't think they're stopping child predators with that show, just making them more cautious. And I'm not surprised to hear most of the cases get dismissed in court - can we say entrapment?
However, it is great to see these sickos squirm when they're caught, and get all the negative publicly. Can you imagine what they have to face up to when they go home?
And to put a normal looking face to the label of child molester is a helpful thing. It makes you realise that these people can be your neighbour, uncle, minister whatever, and you do need to be careful with your kids. You can't take anything for granted when it comes to keeping your kids safe.
post #11 of 13
y'know.. I was ready to come in here and say things about entrapment, but then I decided to go to msnbc.com and look at the clips... - and I don't think it was entrapment at all. There's no tricky languate, the girls clearly state that they're 13, and the guys go over there planning to have sex with them - it's obvious. I think this show is good, and if it makes a predator think twice about doing, it's helping to stop the problem... and those guys deserve to be outed and humiliated. I couldn't believe how many guys they caught :/
post #12 of 13
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
Most cases of child predators is with people that the kid already knows. Of course the worst case is some stranger getting to your kid.
If by worst you mean most grusome (torture to death sort of thing), well, yes, stranger danger is probably the worse case scenario.

But, as you point out, the vast majority of sex crimes (whether against minors OR adults) are perpetrated by someone the victim knows. Incidently, many psychologists regard parent-child incest as a the worse case scenario (not grusome death by stranger danger - though I presume that's mainly because a) at least you do get to die and b) because you're dead, it's pretty hard to measure your level of trauma).

Also interestingly, despite the trauma level of parent-child incest, it's not always regarded seriously in law:

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New York's law—much like that of most other states—allows the possibility of privileged treatment for a special class of offender: the perpetrator who is related to his prey. In other words, the penal code gives a discount to child rapists who grow their own victims.

In New York, sex with a child under the age of 11 is a Class B felony, punishable by up to 25 years in prison. The law is indexed appropriately, in the chapter on sex offenses. If, however, the sexually abused child is closely related to the perpetrator, state law provides for radically more lenient treatment. In such cases, the prosecutor may choose to charge the same acts as incest. This is not listed as a sex offense, but instead as an "offense affecting the marital relationship," listed next to adultery in the law books. It is a Class E felony, for which even a convicted offender may be granted probation.

– Andrew Vachss, New York Times Op-Ed, November 20, 2005
post #13 of 13
I think it has made people evern more paraniod then they already are. Yes it's important to know that sicko's out there, but not everyone is out to get you.
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