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post #1 of 22
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Hello -

I'm looking more for canned food to add to the menu here. My wish list:

-no fish, at all.
-no by-products.
-cans that are at least 5.5oz (12/13 oz. would be ideal).

***other bonus feature would be "not chunky". I have a couple that won't touch the chunky style. They like the "loaf" texture better.

After visiting every feed store and pet chain in town, I've come up with these:

Nutro Max Cat Turkey & Giblets
Nutro Natural Choice Chicken & Turkey
Nutro Natural Choice Chicken Casserole
Eagle Pack Duck & Oatmeal
Wellness Chicken
Wellness Turkey

The nice lady at the last feed store I went to said that she would order others for me...so if anyone has suggestions that would be great.
post #2 of 22
Wellness also makes a Beef & Chicken flavor.
Evanger's Holistic Pheasant Dinner
Evanger's Organic Braised Chicken
Eagle Pack Chicken & Lamb
Eagle Pack Duck & Chicken
Natural Life Lamaderm
Natural Life Chicken, Turkey & Veggie
by Nature Organics Turkey & Chicken

Can you tell my cats have similar dietary requirements?

I have difficulty getting most of these brands at pet food stores in my area, so I order them online. If you go through Pet Food Direct (http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/) click on "Win Free Pet Food for a Year." When you give them your email address, they'll send you bi-weekly coupons for the site. I wait until they send me a 20% off coupon - not only does this cover the cost of shipping, it also provides enough discount to make the food less expensive than purchasing in a store. And it's delivered directly to your home - how's that for convenience!
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Seppolina, thanks for the list, and the petfooddirect tip. I'll definitely check that out

So far my crew has really surprised me with their lack of finickiness (a new word, LOL). Now that we've gone through the fish detox phase, they've been team players.
post #4 of 22
Wellness Beef and Chicken (comes in 12.5 oz cans)
Nutro Natural Choice Liver and Chicken (I think this also comes in 12 oz cans)
Pet Guard Venison and Rice
Pet Guard Rabbit and Rice
Pet Guard Organic Chicken and Vegetables (comes in 12 oz cans)
Felidae Chicken and Brown Rice (comes in 13 oz cans)
post #5 of 22
though not a complete diet (and I haven't gotten my first shipment of this yet, so not sure as to consistency) there is Canine Caviar's Beaver - sold in 5.5 oz. cans also at petfooddirect.com
post #6 of 22
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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix View Post
though not a complete diet (and I haven't gotten my first shipment of this yet, so not sure as to consistency) there is Canine Caviar's Beaver - sold in 5.5 oz. cans also at petfooddirect.com
I asked about Canine Caviar on a dog forum I am a member of. It is a rich food, so you have to be careful with how much you feed, I've been told. That is all secondhand advice, never personally tried Canine Caviar myself.
post #7 of 22
What about Merrick? It's chunky, high quality and several flavours are completley free of fish.

Wait... darn. I miss-read what you'd said. You want NOT chunky *sigh*...
I'll do more reading and come back to you
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by vanillasugar View Post
What about Merrick? It's chunky, high quality and several flavours are completley free of fish.

Wait... darn. I miss-read what you'd said. You want NOT chunky *sigh*...
I'll do more reading and come back to you
Merrick might actually work, though! I mean, one of my girls is a "chunks" only type...& she likes Merrick. Merrick's texture can best be described as "soupy". It's like it has texture, but at the same time it doesn't? It's hard to explain....but if you can get a few cans to try, it might just work!
post #9 of 22
my other cat couldn't eat fish either...
there is an amazing food (or at least it used to be) called active life.
there are no antibiotics used in the beef and chicken and it is all human grade food...
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by semiferal View Post
Wellness Beef and Chicken (comes in 12.5 oz cans)
Nutro Natural Choice Liver and Chicken (I think this also comes in 12 oz cans)
Pet Guard Venison and Rice
Pet Guard Rabbit and Rice
Pet Guard Organic Chicken and Vegetables (comes in 12 oz cans)
Felidae Chicken and Brown Rice (comes in 13 oz cans)
Excellent, thank you! I love the ideas, and especially the big cans.

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Originally Posted by Pat & Alix View Post
though not a complete diet (and I haven't gotten my first shipment of this yet, so not sure as to consistency) there is Canine Caviar's Beaver - sold in 5.5 oz. cans also at petfooddirect.com
Hmm interesting. My knowledge about those types of food is very limited. I've noticed at petfooddirect that there are a few foods marketed for both canine and feline. Are foods that are for "both dogs and cats" really a more balanced diet for a dog, or for a cat? What I mean is, is one of the 2 species missing out on something when they eat those foods? Like I said, I don't know anything about it. Thanks for the idea!

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Originally Posted by vanillasugar View Post
What about Merrick? It's chunky, high quality and several flavours are completley free of fish.

Wait... darn. I miss-read what you'd said. You want NOT chunky *sigh*...
I'll do more reading and come back to you
I'm not opposed to at least trying the chunky. My success rate on it is low, but it's worth a try. Pumpkin usually won't even taste it. She just goes by how it looks, I guess And Beandip doesn't like to have to pick up the chunks off the plate . But we'll try!

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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Merrick might actually work, though! I mean, one of my girls is a "chunks" only type...& she likes Merrick. Merrick's texture can best be described as "soupy". It's like it has texture, but at the same time it doesn't? It's hard to explain....but if you can get a few cans to try, it might just work!
Thanks for the encouragement! We'll try it!

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Originally Posted by tuna View Post
my other cat couldn't eat fish either...
there is an amazing food (or at least it used to be) called active life.
there are no antibiotics used in the beef and chicken and it is all human grade food...
I'll check that out. I have one cat that can't have the fish because of his bladder. As the saying goes, "If Beandip ain't happy, ain't nobody happy!" So they all gave up fish. In the process, I accidentally realized that my 2 that had sensitive tummies no longer had any trouble, well very rarely anyway. So, out with the fish! Thanks for the idea.
post #11 of 22
The foods labeled for "caninie & feline" aren't complete diets for either species. They need to be fed in conjunction with another food or else the animal's diet needs to be supplemented. I think that's how it works, anyways! Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
post #12 of 22
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
The foods labeled for "caninie & feline" aren't complete diets for either species. They need to be fed in conjunction with another food or else the animal's diet needs to be supplemented. I think that's how it works, anyways! Someone correct me if I'm wrong!
That makes sense. So I guess it might be more of a treat type of thing, you think?
post #13 of 22
Odo gets a lot of Evangers--he can eat some types of fish (apparently herring is okay for him) but not others (white fish and salmon seem to result in the meal coming back up). I rotate it with some of the foods he tolerates (like Natural Balance Turkey, Chicken and Venison flavors and Innova). I've tried the Felidae Chicken and Rice, but Odo didn't care for it--it is still an option though.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by beandip View Post
That makes sense. So I guess it might be more of a treat type of thing, you think?
I'm not 100% sure how you would feed a food like Canine Caviar to keep a balance diet for a kitty. I'm just going to let someone else weigh in there....I cannot say with any amount of confidence how much to feed!

ETA: I asked someone who knows about dog food, but she said that you could feed Canine Caviar as like a "topper" to your normal food(like a spoonful) or else feed it as a meal once, maybe twice a week.
post #15 of 22
Sheba makes a few tubs ... they also arent complete and I would call shredded ...

If you dont give it solely and talk to your vet many dog foods have taurine now and are fish free and pate
post #16 of 22
The Canine Caviar for dogs or cats is a simple single protein in a can... without added vitamins etc, therefore not complete for either species. Use it as part of a homemade diet as a cooked protein source, use the beaver I mentioned with supervision by your vet if testing for food allergies...it's just like Wysong's Just Meat series..nothing added, a single protein food.

Active Life went out of production, finally came back in, now in small microwaveable cups..bit of change to ingredients, and they shortened the list of options they offered. However, I can't find a wholesale distributor to buy it from, not sure who, if anyone, is selling the new Active Life online.
post #17 of 22
Why no seafood? Are you concerned with Magnesium? Seafood is the highest quality protein, second only to eggs. Only product high in by-product contains magnesium.
post #18 of 22
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Originally Posted by TikiCat View Post
Why no seafood? Are you concerned with Magnesium? Seafood is the highest quality protein, second only to eggs. Only product high in by-product contains magnesium.
Fish is a common ALLEGEN and it causes the ph to mess up ... This is why EVAN HOLISTIC vets often tell folks to stear clear of all fish wet food or dry all the time and why homemade recipes are limited.... Seafood ie clams mussuels and other crusteceans can be used by most in moderation...
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by cloud_shade View Post
Odo gets a lot of Evangers--he can eat some types of fish (apparently herring is okay for him) but not others (white fish and salmon seem to result in the meal coming back up). I rotate it with some of the foods he tolerates (like Natural Balance Turkey, Chicken and Venison flavors and Innova). I've tried the Felidae Chicken and Rice, but Odo didn't care for it--it is still an option though.
Thanks for the input! Odo is very handsome, BTW.

Many thanks to white cat lover, sharky, and Pat & Alix for the clarification on the canine/feline food.

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Why no seafood? Are you concerned with Magnesium? Seafood is the highest quality protein, second only to eggs. Only product high in by-product contains magnesium.
The long version of my story (sorry): I began avoiding fish as a precaution for Beandip, who is prone to UTIs. In the process, I could see fairly quickly that 2 of my other cats who used to vomit quite frequently, were no longer having problems w/their issues. I made no other changes to their diet, but they very rarely throw up any more. To be honest, I pay attention to ingredients first, then the percentages second. Beandip doesn't care too much for wet food. The other 7 love it. So, twice a day I serve them wet food that I'm comfortable feeding all of them, and when he takes his few bites that's OK. Meanwhile, they are satisfied and they only pick up a few bites of his (prescription) dry food throughout the day - so it's been a win win win situation.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by Seppolina View Post
I have difficulty getting most of these brands at pet food stores in my area, so I order them online. If you go through Pet Food Direct (http://www.petfooddirect.com/store/) click on "Win Free Pet Food for a Year." When you give them your email address, they'll send you bi-weekly coupons for the site. I wait until they send me a 20% off coupon - not only does this cover the cost of shipping, it also provides enough discount to make the food less expensive than purchasing in a store. And it's delivered directly to your home - how's that for convenience!
another good online site is premium foods online.
post #21 of 22
I just wanted to add one more thing! When I am ordering foods to try, I often order from www.epetpals.com as you can order 1 can, 3 cans, or 17 cans! I am actually ordering like 10 different kinds of canned food from them, 2 cans of this kind, 10 of this kind...
post #22 of 22
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
another good online site is premium foods online.
Excellent, thanks!

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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I just wanted to add one more thing! When I am ordering foods to try, I often order from www.epetpals.com as you can order 1 can, 3 cans, or 17 cans! I am actually ordering like 10 different kinds of canned food from them, 2 cans of this kind, 10 of this kind...
That's very good to know . That's half the reason I was trying to find stuff locally, so we could sample "this and that"...so that's very good info to have
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