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post #391 of 418
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Originally Posted by Sibohan2005 View Post
Thank you Mods for all the time and patients you have had over the past week. You have no idea how valued and appreciated you are.
Oh believe me we do!
post #392 of 418
Well, whatever the intent of whatever happened here...the effect is that it brought us closer together.

Yay team!!!
post #393 of 418
This IS a serious board - we are serious about our love of cats, concern for their welfare AND our concern for each other. THAT is precisely WHY this situation was able to develop. We DO however want/know how to have fun, too.

Where the Internet is concerned, it is ALWAYS wise to proceed with caution and not let one's emotions overrule one's head. It is good, that TCS DOES have such a tenderhearted membership but, we must remember that not EVERYONE on the web is honest and straightforward.
post #394 of 418
I was going to post this last night but chose no to but I decided to do so this morning
After reading all this thread I felt the need to.

I still have no opinion but what I see is a bunch of people trying to solve a mystery and they don't have all the clues, why on earth would everyone try to piece something together with so many bare spaces in it. Because for sure these people if it's true didn't stand to gain anything from it except seeing everyone sitting around speculating about all of it.

We all rallied around wanting to help no one ask for anything and then all of the sudden the story changes and it was like everyone just ran with it.
I myself and not hurt or angry with anyone I would have helped because that's who I am.

Why waste your time trying to figure it all out it's not worth it and what goes around comes around and paybacks a Bit** And if it's true shame on them it shouldn't be shame on all of us for being critical of stuff we don't really know.

Time could be better spend then this, We are a caring concerned group here and that's what it should be.

If this is all true they are the losers because they lost a Great group of friends and support.

I know everyone was shocked I was to but to sit around and just keep searching for stuff is foolish and if it isn't true we won't have to worry about it.
I doubt that anyone from the other end would want to come back here even if it isn't true. Picking everything apart doesn't prove anything except that it makes us look petty also.

Time will tell I myself will not criticize and pick anyone apart. I hate to think that there are people that can do this but if so they will be judged at another time in another Forum a much bigger one. And this is simply IMO
post #395 of 418
I have been reading this thread since yesterday afternoon and I am truly shocked. To think, I was actually going to take some money out of my poor mans bank account and buy some things for the baby!

I think I am one of the most gullible people around. At first though, I must admit I didnt really believe it. When I first read the title "Amber is Gone..." I really thought it would be a post by the person who owns the Bobcats and has a bobcat named Amber. Sorry but I did.

Posting of someones death immediatly on a message forum is just a bit weird, so the first thing that crossed my mind is that it was feline.

I hope this doesnt really affect anyone, I am a fairly new member and am going through alot of stuff right now and I wouldnt want anyone to think I am just lying. I wouldnt want anyone to think I am lying about me, my baby boy, my animals or my new pregnancy, I would just be heartbroken.
post #396 of 418
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Originally Posted by halfpint View Post
I was going to post this last night but chose no to but I decided to do so this morning
After reading all this thread I felt the need to.

I still have no opinion but what I see is a bunch of people trying to solve a mystery and they don't have all the clues, why on earth would everyone try to piece something together with so many bare spaces in it. Because for sure these people if it's true didn't stand to gain anything from it except seeing everyone sitting around speculating about all of it.

We all rallied around wanting to help no one ask for anything and then all of the sudden the story changes and it was like everyone just ran with it.
I myself and not hurt or angry with anyone I would have helped because that's who I am.

Why waste your time trying to figure it all out it's not worth it and what goes around comes around and paybacks a Bit** And if it's true shame on them it shouldn't be shame on all of us for being critical of stuff we don't really know.

Time could be better spend then this, We are a caring concerned group here and that's what it should be.

If this is all true they are the losers because they lost a Great group of friends and support.

I know everyone was shocked I was to but to sit around and just keep searching for stuff is foolish and if it isn't true we won't have to worry about it.
I doubt that anyone from the other end would want to come back here even if it isn't true. Picking everything apart doesn't prove anything except that it makes us look petty also.

Time will tell I myself will not criticize and pick anyone apart. I hate to think that there are people that can do this but if so they will be judged at another time in another Forum a much bigger one. And this is simply IMO
I know you say you're not criticizing or picking anyone apart - but what exactly is calling those people who tried to figure out what was going on "foolish"? It's human nature to be curious and want to understand what really happened, especially since Amber had been here a while, people knew her, cared for her, anticipated her having the baby. If you don't want to try to figure out what went on, I respect that - why not respect those who chose try to figure out what happened, to put their own minds (and everyone else's) to rest? People need closure. I completely understand that we probably won't ever know exactly what happened, but there's' nothing wrong with people trying to solve it. As I said, it's human nature, and not something foolish at all.
post #397 of 418
I know a lot if people find it weird that someone would post online after a death. I am one of those people who have. When my Nana died the whole family was over. Cousins to the left talking about their childhood, Mom bawling her eyes out, Aunt being a witch ranting about other stuff. I felt alone and needed to talk. I came online to a forum to talk to people. Some people prefer that. That's all I have to add.
post #398 of 418
I think it's only natural that people want to talk about it, pick over the pieces etc as part of coming to terms with things. A lot of people feel they've been duped and analysing the situation helps them come to terms with the way events have turned.

We'll never know exactly how much - if any - of the whole thing is true or why anyone would make up such a story, but people do do things like this. Exactly why, I've no idea. For attention maybe, out of boredom, to make their lives seem more interesting... possible reasons are endless and we can only speculate.

I agree that everyone should be careful about taking things they read on the internet at face value but I also hope this won't make people overly suspicious. Most people are exactly who they say they are and it would be a shame if we allowed these events to sow seeds of distrust in a wonderful community.
post #399 of 418
My opinion.. We all let it go and let the issue and all the stuff just go to the waste side..

I say we talk about better happier things,, Like Me being the Spotlight (err Victim) this week!!!!!

Come on,, ask me a questions.. I don't mind.... I'm tough enough.. You dig it!!!

Let's talk about fun stuff, and about non scandlous stuff - Like my questions.. or the superbowl this weekend!!!

Heather
"The real nut in the game"
post #400 of 418
I didnt say anyone in peticuliar I meant myself,I wouldn't waste the time doing that. People do what they do and after all is said and done nothing has been accompished it winds back up at square one.
What I respect people for is careing enough to try and be helpful not to pick everything apart when they don't really know IMO.
I cried my eyes out when I read what was said about her dying. I was shocked but that's because that's who I am,
I do feel that everyone has an opinion but to just pick everything apart is something I chose not to do.
But to sit and try and solve it is a waste of time when we were the ones that offered to help, No one asked for help. I didn't wake up this morning feeling any less of a person for having tried to be helpful, I dont feel the need to pick it apart, like I said what goes around comes around and they will not have the benefit of seeing me get upset over it, there the petty ones if it's true. That could be what they wanted.
post #401 of 418
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Originally Posted by halfpint View Post
I was going to post this last night but chose no to but I decided to do so this morning
After reading all this thread I felt the need to.

I still have no opinion but what I see is a bunch of people trying to solve a mystery and they don't have all the clues, why on earth would everyone try to piece something together with so many bare spaces in it. Because for sure these people if it's true didn't stand to gain anything from it except seeing everyone sitting around speculating about all of it.

We all rallied around wanting to help no one ask for anything and then all of the sudden the story changes and it was like everyone just ran with it.
I myself and not hurt or angry with anyone I would have helped because that's who I am.

Why waste your time trying to figure it all out it's not worth it and what goes around comes around and paybacks a Bit** And if it's true shame on them it shouldn't be shame on all of us for being critical of stuff we don't really know.

Time could be better spend then this, We are a caring concerned group here and that's what it should be.

If this is all true they are the losers because they lost a Great group of friends and support.

I know everyone was shocked I was to but to sit around and just keep searching for stuff is foolish and if it isn't true we won't have to worry about it.
I doubt that anyone from the other end would want to come back here even if it isn't true. Picking everything apart doesn't prove anything except that it makes us look petty also.

Time will tell I myself will not criticize and pick anyone apart. I hate to think that there are people that can do this but if so they will be judged at another time in another Forum a much bigger one. And this is simply IMO
The way I see it is this: It is human nature to try to make sense of things that make no sense.

This thread has been immensely theraputic for people - I know I cried for hours the day I found out she "died" and reading through this thread and trying to see what makes sense out of a senseless act has been helpful for me personally.

We are in the healing process, and just like we grieved together, we are trying to heal together. So please don't tell people that their methods of trying to make sense of this is foolish. It may very well be, but everyone goes about grief and healing differently. And talking this through is a very GOOD way to heal, even if ultimately, there are no real answers.
post #402 of 418
OK, I have kept my big mouth shut for about 25 pages of stuff.... and what I post now may surprise you as it comes from me.

"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
post #403 of 418
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
here is a few pics of the quilt.I will be holding onto it for now, it won't be going to Kaelyn


This is so beautiful and you have such a kind heart to have done something like this.. it actually brought a tear to my eye.
post #404 of 418
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Originally Posted by angelkitty View Post
My opinion.. We all let it go and let the issue and all the stuff just go to the waste side..

I say we talk about better happier things,, Like Me being the Spotlight (err Victim) this week!!!!!
...let´s make difficult the life at our victim of this week!.....
post #405 of 418
Wow, this is all so interesting...and sad of course. I've only read the first few pages but I've got to go get some work done on my truck so I'll be away for a few hours.....but I will be back to continue reading.

Whoever/whatever Amber/John may be, I hope God has mercy on them for this act.......

Take care y'all...and thanks Anne....
Hilda >^..^<
post #406 of 418
I just wanted to add one more thing:

We have had a peaceful community here on TCS where we all get along, let's not let this whole ordeal tear us aprat & bring about hurt feelings. Many people have stated their opinions here, & they have a right to their opinions. Try not to get offended by those opinions.
post #407 of 418
All in all the whole deal made this Forum feel good about being able to care, I say don't let this one thing ruin what we all are ..
post #408 of 418
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...let´s make difficult the life at our victim of this week!.....
Well we can talk about how handsome Milky looks in that siggy
Thats a lot better deal as I see it, no time wasted He looks very handsome
post #409 of 418
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Originally Posted by Sicycat View Post
This is so beautiful and you have such a kind heart to have done something like this.. it actually brought a tear to my eye.


The blanket is absolutely beautiful - you did such a wonderful job of it. The butterflies are gorgeous!!!!!

You know if it turns out that I'm pregnant I'm going to do some major sucking up to you
post #410 of 418
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You know if it turns out that I'm pregnant I'm going to do some major sucking up to you
That is too funny Sarah!
post #411 of 418
I just wanted to add a couple things here.

This isn't the first time that we (moderators) and the members have felt that someone is not all they claim to be on the board. This is the first time since I've been here that something like this has happened here. There are people who make up identities on the 'net and are just pretending to be who they wish they were in RL. They are ridiculous and most people can see through their facade, but they mean no harm. Just because there were holes in the story that doesn't mean there was enough information to take any official action.

Also, while "john" never asked for a handout, he did say that it would be appreciated (a fund for Kaelyn or money/gifts sent to "him"). He certainly wasn't fighting it any when the idea of contributions came up, at least not until his story came into question - then he bolted. Considering what a caring community this is, the idea of a fund or gifts isn't something that was unforeseeable, especially considering the "hardships" that they had before the report of her death. "He/they" may have thought this community was much more stupid and giving than we are. This is an intelligent bunch of people here, and Trust but Verify is strong in a lot of people's minds.
post #412 of 418
I just read most of this thread and I'm just stunned. I mean what can you say?

I just want you all to know that I'm 100% real and I'll meet anyone close to me if they want. I just hate to travel so they'd have to be in the immediate area, around the Quad Cities. I can deal with going that far, it's only 45 minutes from me.

I have enough drama in my life, I don't need to make up anything. With my colon, the cats, not feeling well for the past month almost, who needs to make up anything? I just want everything to get back to normal, both here and at my house. Please..
post #413 of 418
Tammy, the blanket you made is so beautiful!
post #414 of 418
I just want to say that I am so very grateful for the ones that found out about this and protected us.

I feel like a dope because I swallowed this hook, line and sinker, losing sleep over the thought of Kaelyn being hooked up to all those wires and so on.

I am determined that I am NOT going to allow this to turn me into a non-giving, non-caring person. I WILL ask others about things if I am not sure, but this community is too good, too loving, too caring to allow something like this to destroy it.

The ones who did this, if they did are the losers. I will NOT be one of those.
post #415 of 418
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Originally Posted by KittenKiya View Post
I feel like a dope because I swallowed this hook, line and sinker, losing sleep over the thought of Kaelyn being hooked up to all those wires and so on.
I am determined that I am NOT going to allow this to turn me into a non-giving, non-caring person. I WILL ask others about things if I am not sure, but this community is too good, too loving, too caring to allow something like this to destroy it.

The ones who did this, if they did are the losers. I will NOT be one of those.
I learned a very valuable lesson here. I guess I'm about as naive as they come.
But that's all I've got to say on the matter. I think it's been discussed to death and I really don't have anything to add other than - I"M ME and I"M VERY REAL!!! I wish I could meet some of you folks now to prove it. Since I've never come across this thing, not only do I have doubt now about folks, but I'm also soooooo worried about people having doubts about me. That's just the type of person I am. All I can say is if I was scammin you - I wouldn't have waited a year to do it. Does that help at all??
So time to revive the NE meet up!!!! Any takers now?
post #416 of 418
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Originally Posted by jugen View Post

I just want you all to know that I'm 100% real and I'll meet anyone close to me if they want. I just hate to travel so they'd have to be in the immediate area, around the Quad Cities. I can deal with going that far, it's only 45 minutes from me.
I didn't know you were in the Quad Cities! My Grandparents lived in Andalusia, which is near Milan, which is near Moline. My Grandma moved in with my family when my Grandpa passed, and he is in fact buried in Rock Island.

Ok, end tidbit.

I really think Amber is probably way less crafty and interesting than we're making her out to be with all the speculation. It's sort of reminding me of Lonelygirl15...which blew up right around when Amber joined and I've seen fallout from other "lonelypeople" who are just regular people who have been intruiged with the whole alternate reality/alternate identity thing. This is an individual, like Heidi said, who means no harm and is probably just bored, wanting attention, and not entirely bright.
post #417 of 418
"I still have no opinion but what I see is a bunch of people trying to solve a mystery and they don't have all the clues, why on earth would everyone try to piece something together with so many bare spaces in it. Because for sure these people if it's true didn't stand to gain anything from it except seeing everyone sitting around speculating about all of it."


This is why people read Agatha Christie or watch Law & Order or Without a Trace. There is nothing like a good mystery.
post #418 of 418
Thread Starter 
Ok, the 24 hours of venting are over

Thank you everyone for your input. I will be closing this thread, but before I do, I wanted to address some concerns.

We do keep track of IP and logins. We do not allow duplicate accounts for the same user, and we have strong filters in place to prevent that. We were fully aware that Amber and John were posting from the same computer, but "they" asked for an exception to be made since they were supposed to be two people posting from one computer. Let me assure you that it is highly unlikely that he/she/they will be able to sign up under a different username (or already are).

This has been a painful experience for many, but I hopefully it will make us stronger as a community. I for one, intend to go on trusting people online. I have met some wonderful wonderful people online and I cherish that, always.

With this, let's put this sad affair to rest. Any other comments or feedback, please PM to a staff member. Thank you.
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