Regarding Amber, John and the baby

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Originally Posted by sarahp

One of the reasons why I'm so upset about this is that it freaked my husband out about me having kids. As I have said previously, his mother died when he was 3 months old because she chose not to have cancer treatment - she chose to have him, and I have a heart condition which means my pregnancy will be considered "high risk", and I will need to see a high risk ob/gyn, and probably won't be allowed to have a natural birth.

There's the possibility I'm pregnant (4 not pregnant tests though now...
, but still no period), and this really really scared us about how things can go wrong during childbirth
Oh I would be scared too!
Although, with today's medicine & if you are careful enough, you will be fine! Just be extra cautious!! If you really want to have your own kids, & not adopt, & your dr. says it's OK, then go ahead!!!
 

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Originally Posted by HopeHacker

For all of the people who cried, and who mourned the passing of Amber please don't be angry or disappointed in yourselves. You were just feeling the way any decent human being would feel and reacting the way any decent human being would react.

Don't be mad at yourselves because you BELIEVED a story that you couldn't imagine not to be true. After all, what decent person would lie about a death, and about a baby being left alone in life without it's mother? I would say that 99.9% of the members of TCS wonderful, genuine, and honest people. I have never come upon an online community where there was so many wonderful, caring and giving people. Please don't let this jade your hearts, because for every bad person there is out there, there are 3 good people.

To care about this baby and to mourn her mother is natural. If it's a hoax, then remember it's not on you. You didn't make a fool out of yourself for being a DECENT human being, but instead remember it was THEM who made a fool out of themselves, (and their Karma will show this) by trying to take advantage of good and decent hearts.

I myself don't know whether or not it's a hoax or a reality, although I tend to think it is probably a hoax. I know I too shed some tears for that baby, and for the loss of one so young as Amber, not even 21 years of age. I am not going to let myself feel like I was a fool, though, what I will allow myself to feel though, is sorry for anyone who would stoop so low to fabricate a story like this, for what ever reason. If it's fabricated, think of the damage they've done to themselves and their soal. Please don't let it damage who you are, as well.
Hope - well said. Thank you.
 

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Sorry yet again if this has been said, but is it possible to see if anyone by "Amber"'s name lives in MO or even exists? This just frustrates me. If I were in the states I would want to get to the bottom of this and find out who 4crazycats and CatlessGoatMan really are.
 

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Originally Posted by HopeHacker

For all of the people who cried, and who mourned the passing of Amber please don't be angry or disappointed in yourselves. You were just feeling the way any decent human being would feel and reacting the way any decent human being would react.

Don't be mad at yourselves because you BELIEVED a story that you couldn't imagine not to be true. After all, what decent person would lie about a death, and about a baby being left alone in life without it's mother? I would say that 99.9% of the members of TCS wonderful, genuine, and honest people. I have never come upon an online community where there was so many wonderful, caring and giving people. Please don't let this jade your hearts, because for every bad person there is out there, there are 3 good people.

To care about this baby and to mourn her mother is natural. If it's a hoax, then remember it's not on you. You didn't make a fool out of yourself for being a DECENT human being, but instead remember it was THEM who made a fool out of themselves, (and their Karma will show this) by trying to take advantage of good and decent hearts.

I myself don't know whether or not it's a hoax or a reality, although I tend to think it is probably a hoax. I know I too shed some tears for that baby, and for the loss of one so young as Amber, not even 21 years of age. I am not going to let myself feel like I was a fool, though, what I will allow myself to feel though, is sorry for anyone who would stoop so low to fabricate a story like this, for what ever reason. If it's fabricated, think of the damage they've done to themselves and their soal. Please don't let it damage who you are, as well.
Well said, Hope. You are a wise woman.
 

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Originally Posted by HopeHacker

For all of the people who cried, and who mourned the passing of Amber please don't be angry or disappointed in yourselves. You were just feeling the way any decent human being would feel and reacting the way any decent human being would react.

Don't be mad at yourselves because you BELIEVED a story that you couldn't imagine not to be true. After all, what decent person would lie about a death, and about a baby being left alone in life without it's mother? I would say that 99.9% of the members of TCS wonderful, genuine, and honest people. I have never come upon an online community where there was so many wonderful, caring and giving people. Please don't let this jade your hearts, because for every bad person there is out there, there are 3 good people.

To care about this baby and to mourn her mother is natural. If it's a hoax, then remember it's not on you. You didn't make a fool out of yourself for being a DECENT human being, but instead remember it was THEM who made a fool out of themselves, (and their Karma will show this) by trying to take advantage of good and decent hearts.

I myself don't know whether or not it's a hoax or a reality, although I tend to think it is probably a hoax. I know I too shed some tears for that baby, and for the loss of one so young as Amber, not even 21 years of age. I am not going to let myself feel like I was a fool, though, what I will allow myself to feel though, is sorry for anyone who would stoop so low to fabricate a story like this, for what ever reason. If it's fabricated, think of the damage they've done to themselves and their soul. Please don't let it damage who you are, as well.
Very well said Hope. Thankyou for reminding us all of that
I think we needed that.
 

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Weird. Does anyone know if she mentioned her middle name? Does this mean she actually exists or did they just use her name? (Sorry for all the questions!
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Well all as I can say is that I'm shocked. I've seen these things happen on other forums, but never by someone who was a trusted and well known member. It takes a really sick, mentally disturbed person to create such a lie. If this indeed was what it seems, I really hope John will seek some kind of mental help. What saddens me even more are there are real memebers on this board, and should something tragic ever happen to them, people are going to now question if it's real or not.
 

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Man color me gullible!!!!
I too thought there was a few things "they" posted that didn't seem right.
I'm not going to list them in case this was a hoax and whoever wrote all this stuff get's any ideas. I mean what happened with the "goats"??? I feel sorry that in this day and age people have to stoop to this level of attention getting. Were there other forums that this was on too??

BTW Susie knows I real I mean how many people would spend $7 to mail a item that cost way less that that!!!
 

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I haven't read this whole thread yet but I wanted to comment.
I have thought about this esp since Amber had posted some issues with their relationship. I really hope this is a joke b/c it is such a sad story.
If it isn't a joke I am sorry their are doubts but it's hard when you only know people thru the net.


This is another reason why I will not donate for an online cause unless I directly know the person(s) involved.

Whatever the truth is, it has brought us closer together.
 

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Originally Posted by Arlyn

With the new federal privacy laws, Hospitals and such do not give out ANY information beyond whether or not such and such came into the ER.

I would assume that the names are fake for two reasons:

1) If this is indeed a hoax (and I think it is), they wouldn't want us knowing who they really are.

or

2) A lot of people are very paranoid about the internet (with good reason) and habitually use fake names.


It would be impossible to get any public records on people using fake names and public records are the only source to get such info from.
Thanks Sweetie!
I'm not too familiar with the new laws (is it HIPAA or something else?)

Originally Posted by Moz

Sorry yet again if this has been said, but is it possible to see if anyone by "Amber"'s name lives in MO or even exists? This just frustrates me. If I were in the states I would want to get to the bottom of this and find out who 4crazycats and CatlessGoatMan really are.
Since all "they" if it was one person or two did was swindle us of emotions and maybe for those that had the time to donate in her name already. There is no true crime in that. You just move on from there
 

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Thanks Hope for your beautiful words, that was well said.

I feel really sorry for CritterMom
She made a pressie for the baby and everything!! Did John ever give you an address to send it to?
 

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To be honest, I don't even know the name of the law, I just know every time I go to the ER part of the paperwork I have to fill out and actually read has to do with this privacy act and my living will.

I know that my mother called to get info the last time (I wasn't admited), and all they would tell her was that I had come into the ER, but not why, or when/if I was admitted.
 

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Originally Posted by sarahp

Thanks Hope for your beautiful words, that was well said.

I feel really sorry for CritterMom
She made a pressie for the baby and everything!! Did John ever give you an address to send it to?
Tammy has been in my thoughts this whole thread. I don't think she's been online, or at least she hasn't posted, since yesterday.
 

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Originally Posted by lunasmom

Since all "they" if it was one person or two did was swindle us of emotions and maybe for those that had the time to donate in her name already. There is no true crime in that. You just move on from there
Yeah, you're right. But what they did was wrong and they fooled many people and toyed with their emotions.
 

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Originally Posted by emily_325

Tammy has been in my thoughts this whole thread. I don't think she's been online, or at least she hasn't posted, since yesterday.
Yep. She probably knows about the whole hoax thing. Maybe that's why she hasn't been on.
 

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Originally Posted by emily_325

Tammy has been in my thoughts this whole thread. I don't think she's been online, or at least she hasn't posted, since yesterday.
I have been talking to her a ton (on our messanger names). She is still heartbroken over all of this..ya'll should have seen the blanket she made- it's adorable. It's pink and has little butterflies all over it. She has such a big heart
/ She'll be back online soon. She's just taking a little time to her self right now.
 

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i had my supicions too. But i didnt say anything until i could do some more research. I didnt get overly invested in John and Ambers posts, i dont know something just seemed odd about it. to me, anyways..

on another board i used to frequent, there was an incident very similar to this, this girl stole ultrasound pics from online, had a myspace, ect. I was trying to gather some more info before i said anything. But i am glad its been done by someone else. its sick and sad what people will do and i dont understand it myself.

But TCS is a loving place and I hope that never changes.
 
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