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post #61 of 72
If that happened to me I would be too embarrassed at not being able to handle my child, I sure wouldn't be trying to get my fifteen minutes!

Kids are very smart about being manipulative. Let me tell you about my brother. My mom and dad are very sweet, loving people. The occasional swat was about the worse we got, but we did behave, well most of us behaved most of the time...

My brother did go through a phase when he would throw a tantrum and literally thow himself at anything, floor, wall, the fireplace.... my mom was a wreck trying to stop him. But he knew it bothered her so he kept doing it even though he would end up with big goose eggs on his forehead. Well one day in the grocery store he grabbed something off the shelf that he wanted even though he had been told no. My mom got angry and took it away, scolding him. He actually cringed and wimpered, acting like she was going to hit him. Of course at the time he has a big bump on his forehead. My mom said that she couldn't get out of that store fast enough. And no, my mom or dad did not hit him. He was just a first class, Dennis the Menace level BRAT. (I should know, he was one year older then me, his favorite thing to do was pester me. ) He is a wonderful adult, and laughs about all the trouble he caused as a child. So kids can be very sneaky.

But even as bad as he was, my parents would have gotten his butt in that chair and buckled him in. And NONE of us three kids EVER hit at my parents, especially my mom.
post #62 of 72
I never hit my mom or dad either, I had enough sense, and my children were also smart enough not to hit me or their dad.
post #63 of 72
If any of my brothers or I had EVER hit Mom, Pops would have mopped up the floor with us!
post #64 of 72
Thread Starter 
Any parent that allows their child to hit them is a total moron IMO.
post #65 of 72
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
well, I don't have children, but to be honest sometimes I feel I have a better grasp of the whole thing a bit better than most parents I go by how I was raised and since I think my mom did the best darn job ever, I think that's a good basis for my opinions
Sweetie, please don't take what I said personally, and please also note that I didn't say that you don't have a right to have your own opinion. Everyone has the right to have an opinion, it is just that TO ME, if you have never actually been a parent, you are in no place to tell others how it should be done.

And that's just my opinion - whoever I am in the greater scheme of things. LOL.

post #66 of 72
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Originally Posted by Rockcat View Post
Hmmm... maybe I'm having a rebellious moment or something, but that makes me want to comment. Just because I couldn't be a parent I shouldn't express my opinion in IMO??? Don't most of us have and express opinions about lots of topics on this forum whether or not we have first-hand knowledge? I'm not a parent, but I have them!
Please see how I just responded to Katie. I think I wasn't clear enough with the words I used in that original post of mine.

Only parents know what it actually takes to BE a parent. You don't ever truly know until you DO it. That's all I'm saying.

And too many parents out there are just letting their kids walk all over them.
post #67 of 72
Well I AM a mother of a child that age right now and I know that it takes more than spanking children to be a good disciplinarian (sp??)
post #68 of 72
Thread Starter 
It takes MUCH more than spanking, Siamese, who said it didn't?

I think Ginger was talking about the lady trying to get the "no spanking" law passed, she has no children, only a cat.
post #69 of 72
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Please see how I just responded to Katie. I think I wasn't clear enough with the words I used in that original post of mine.

Only parents know what it actually takes to BE a parent. You don't ever truly know until you DO it. That's all I'm saying.

And too many parents out there are just letting their kids walk all over them.
I know what you mean. Sometimes I'm overly sensitive because I couldn't have kids.
post #70 of 72
I've been in a situation where a child has been behind me kicking my seat for the whole trip with parents that did nothing to stop it.

I can well remember when I was young, single, unmarried and childless and how knowledgeable I was about raising children. Then I got married, matured, had a child and it's amazing how all that knowledge just flew out the window one day and I ended up with some of the same problems as the people I used to criticize about not raising their children very well. Go figure!
post #71 of 72
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Everyone has the right to have an opinion, it is just that TO ME, if you have never actually been a parent, you are in no place to tell others how it should be done.
Hmm...I have no children either. And no offense taken, but would that mean if I am in a store and I see someone wacking the crap out of a kid I should hold my tongue? Or if I'm in a restaurant and I see someone's toddler wandering in and out the front door while ma and pa eat dessert, oblivious to where the kid is...that I should keep my mouth shut?

Because I pay taxes to educate, feed, provide health care, etc, for a good many children in this state, I always feel I'm entitled to an opinion on the manner in which I would like to see kids raised. Sadly, I maintain that there are way too many people who are too stupid, lazy, drug or alcohol dependent, engaged in illegal behavior, etc...that should never have children, but unfortunately, do. Do I feel that with my limited experience with nieces, nephews, etc, that I am possibly better qualified to raise these kids than their actual parents? Uhm....yes.

But back to the actual question. Yes, I think they were correct in removing the child from the plane and I think they were way more generous in compensating the parents than the situation called for.
post #72 of 72
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Sweetie, please don't take what I said personally, and please also note that I didn't say that you don't have a right to have your own opinion. Everyone has the right to have an opinion, it is just that TO ME, if you have never actually been a parent, you are in no place to tell others how it should be done.

And that's just my opinion - whoever I am in the greater scheme of things. LOL.

Sorry to hijack this thread for a second, but......
Gingersmom, I see your point but I wanted to add something. Perhaps you'd see it as something of an exception?

I agree that you can't really know what it's like to be a parent until you do it, but I don't agree that parents know better or even what to do all the time. Having a kid is a huge scary thing, as all parents know, and it is NOT like those little guys come with instruction booklets.

I have no children of my own (yet) but I've been in various aspects of child care and rearing for over 13 years now. I have given parents, especially first-timers, advice that has been both asked for and greatly helpful and appreciated. It's not that I know exactly what they're going through, it's that I know what their kid is going through, cuz I've seen it before (obviously every kid is different, of course) and can offer some tips, peace of mind and, sometimes the most helpful thing, reassurance that they're doing fine. I am not by any means saying I'm better than a parent, or that I'm always right. I don't think it's always a matter of knowing "better", though.....sometimes, if it's your kid, it's hard to be objective at all. A fresh perspective that says "hey, I've been through this with other kids before, why not try ____" or "yeah, this is really common at his age. He'll be fine, just keep doing ____ and unless he starts _______, it's nothing to worry about". Obviously, there's no contest between who is the biggest and most important influence on a child's behaviour, and the final decision on what to do must be the parents, of course.....and when they've decided, case closed. But I don't think giving advice, as long as it's welcomed by and not forced upon the parents, is a bad thing even though I don't have my own kids at this time.

On the other hand, unsolicited advice, or pushy people (whether they're parents or not) often does nothing but undermine a new parent's confidence, so there are certainly situations where it's counterproductive.

Anyway, end of hijack
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