Originally Posted by furryferals
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|Battersea they just re-home.
but it's also the place where i bought the cats, and they have a lost and found section, who i spoke to last week so they are aware the cats are stolen, should they ever come into contact with them. i think they may be able to advice on how to handle this. maybe they won't but it's worth trying i think.
|When you say they changed 'ownership' do you mean they have changed the microchip details?Or have they registered them at another vet?There is no licence for cats or dogs in the Uk. If they have changed the microchip details that is NOT proof of ownership.
How long ago did this happen?
i'm not entirely sure. i spoke to the mchip people last thurs morning (the morning after the cats were taken) and they said i was the owner but someone by the name of one of the tenants had rung on 10th jan to say they were in africa but would change ownership when they returned.
i knew when the cats went that they'd stolen the papers that go with them, but this means that they took the papers (or copies) to africa - where they went in mid december. so this was clearly planned for a while.
i spoke to the mchip people again who said they couldn't give me any info as i wasn't the registered owner. i asked why they'd changed the details. they said that since all they deal with is reunification, they have to go by what they're told. she said they don't actually change the ownership, just get asked to update their records when whoever does change ownership does so. she said she received all the correct forms/certificates and therefore had to change it.
i've no idea about them going to a vet - my vet say there's been no contact from them at all. nor has another vet asked for their records. however, i don't know *who* they have changed ownership with.
on sunday they returned some stuff to me: basically the cats papers that were no longer useful to them. the receipts from battersea (which have my name as owner, and my signature), the insurance papers and vet records. but not the crucial microchip stuff.
the problem now is that they are the registered owners and if i go about this the wrong way, they can claim that I am the thief.
|They had no right to enter your property after they left,They had no legal right to access so they were tresspassing.
sadly not. these people, i thought, were my friends. they'd lived at my house for over a year, and i thought they were trustworthy: they'd always paid rent on time etc.
when they moved out i asked for the keys and they said they'd left them at the new place by mistake. they also said something like "and anyway, i'm sure we've forgotten something". when you think someone's a friend and you can trust them, you believe this statement and understand it to mean material items, clothes, toiletries etc. and that was what i did. i said they could have the keys for a day or two and come to get their stuff.
they came the morning after they left and i only realised when i went downstairs to make breakfast: but they never said they were coming. i emailed and said could they just let me know when they were coming in future because otherwise i'd be freaked out when things moved about. they even emailed to say they'd be over about 5pm on weds. i knew (and they knew) that i'd be out then, but i didn't think much of it: they'd been in my house without my presence on many occasions during their tenancy. the police said that my invitation nulls any trespass, and my saying they could get "their stuff" could be argued by them to have meant the cats, so that nulls any theft.
i think they probably knew this and have been clever. every time i've asked for information and/or the cats i've set a deadline or i'll go to the police. however, every time, their email with intentions has come in very very close to the deadline. i suspect they knew that the way they did this would stop the police getting involved, and knew my threats to talk to the police were pointless, and just dragged things out in terms of making me wait on them, knowing that they had the upper hand.
|Do you have any photo's of your cats with you?,do you have any fur anywhere from their beds?.....If the police won't act,then you may have to take civil action and have dna done on the fur you have from them.
yeah, i have pics on my phone. the problem is now they've changed ownership proving i had the cats isn't the issue: it's proving that i can look after them and proving that they changed the details frauduiently.
|Take that letter to the police too,that is proof they have admitted they have taken your cats,The police must act.
i thought that would be the case too but they said that because the letter made claims about my ability to look after the cats, that automatically made it a civil issue, rather than a criminal one, because insted of just taking the cats and saying nothing or gloating, they have said they have done this for the welfare of the cats and the police can't then get involved because whether or not i can care for them is not for the police to decide, it's a lawyer type issue.
still, at lesat i've finally managed to get some sleep.