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post #31 of 57
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
Honestly, I'm waiting to see who the Republicans are going to come up with. I'd like to see a really great conservative voice come out of the party, someone who is going to spark national debate and run a great campaign.

Is it sad that I'm looking forward to this?
Absolutely not!!! I'm with you 100% on this one!!!
(Wanna move with me if Clinton/Obama get in???)
post #32 of 57
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Originally Posted by theimp98 View Post
Anyway, if the Dem want to lose again. The run her. She can not hide her super liberal voting record. or some other things in the past. The country will not vote for that as a whole. they want to win, they will need to put up someone that can appeal to the common person.
Exactly my thoughts! She's been "running" for about the past year, trying to play like she's a moderate. Most people aren't that stupid - she's a full on liberal through and through. If you are, at least be honest and say you are. Her voting record proves it more than her pre-written speeches disprove it. She would get the "Move On.org" vote, but not the majority, moderate American vote.

I hope that the GOP has figured out that having a "neo-Con", full on right-wing religious conservative has done a lot of dividing within the party. They need to get back to a REAL conservative with true conservative values, not someone who just panders to the Religious Right.
post #33 of 57
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Originally Posted by lisasha3 View Post
Absolutely not!!! I'm with you 100% on this one!!!
(Wanna move with me if Clinton/Obama get in???)
I'm actually a Libertarian! I just want to see this country get back to a more moderate government. I could care less if that is republican or democrat. I also love to see the nation come together and reexamine itself every four years.

I love republicans I really do, but not the way the party looks now. I'd like to see (my liberal mother is going to shoot me for this) someone like Barry Goldwater.
post #34 of 57
I don't think the amount of "experience" matter too much as long as they know politics - they have so many advisers and can't imagine they make too many decisions themselves.

They just need to be the face of the country and be able to handle themselves in public situations and when they get asked questions in a non organised interview where they get briefed on what's going to be asked. IMO that's Bush's failing, and either Obama or Clinton could do it better.

I'd love to see Gore run!
post #35 of 57
I am happily in the clinton camp..

And i think its sad to see the I am moving to canada posts popping up. I have seen alot of people get bashed for having that view on our current president.

just my two cents.
post #36 of 57
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I don't think the amount of "experience" matter too much as long as they know politics - they have so many advisers and can't imagine they make too many decisions themselves.

You might want to rethink this idea. Have you been paying attention what Bush does without anyones input or support? Plus, you need someone that can pick good advisors who are concerned about the country, not their pocketbooks and power.

Obama is a great speaker and has a lot of appeal, but I would like him to sit out for 10 years, get some experience and a track record.
post #37 of 57
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Originally Posted by gailuvscats View Post
You might want to rethink this idea. Have you been paying attention what Bush does without anyones input or support? Plus, you need someone that can pick good advisors who are concerned about the country, not their pocketbooks and power.

Obama is a great speaker and has a lot of appeal, but I would like him to sit out for 10 years, get some experience and a track record.
I have to agree with you on this one. Will wonders never cease, huh? Obama is a great speaker, but you need more than charisma to be an effective President.
post #38 of 57
IMO, it seems like there are people that just don't like it when a black person is a conservative or a Republican. And if it is a black woman, forget about it.

I love Condi, I think she is a strong woman, people may not like her politics but, oh well.

If the Democrats REALLY want to win the White House in '08, they best rethink a Clinton/Obama ticket.

That will just hand the presidency to the Republicans. On 2nd thought, go for it, run Clinton/Obama. Ha ha
post #39 of 57
I do not agree with her politically or on most topics for that matter -nor will i vote for her. that being said though, i would like to add that i do applaud her for standing up for her beliefs and being willing to go after something that she is aspiring to do! It takes a strong powerful woman to do that.
post #40 of 57
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Originally Posted by LSULOVER View Post
I have nothing against a women president, I am a woman too, I just don't think she would make a good president, therefore I will not vote for her. I think men have enough problems trying to run our government.
That's right. Men have enough problems because they cause the problems. We need a strong woman to fix the mess. CAn't believe we haven't had a female leader yet. We're behind the times on this one. I think Hilary would be a great president, but unfortunately don't think she could win because there are too many people who feel the way others on this board do.

I liked McCain too until he turned on his friends and kissed up to his former enemy. Its pretty sad what people will do to try to get elected.
post #41 of 57
This will be the first election that I feel the need to vote. I have stayed out of it the last two elections because I didn't feel educated enough about the issues to make a good choice.

If Hilary ran, I would listen to what her goals were and see if she explains HOW! That is the most important question that past politicians running have avoided. How are you going to improve education? HOW are you going to end the war in Iraq! HOW HOW HOW HOW HOW!

If no one can tell me how they plan to do something, they won't get my vote. "So, you want to eliminate the national debt? Great, how are you going to do it?"

It would be no surprise to hear that Hilary would want to raise taxes, but I think that would hurt the people more than anything. It is proven that when less taxes are taken out, the more money people have, therefore, the more money people spend and put into the economy.

After all that rambling, I'll say this: I don't care if the candidate is male, female, black, white, dem, repub, indep., I will vote for the person who I feel will address the issues that are important to me, and the person who will do it without damaging our ecomony.

I refuse to vote for a straight party, or just because the person is a woman (that would piss me off...to be voted for just because I'm a woman..what about my mind? my ideas?), or because the person is black.
post #42 of 57
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
I'm a Democrat and I want to see a Democrat in the White House, but I will vote Republican, Independant or any other way, rather than vote for Clinton, if she get the Nomination. In fact if that woman becomes the Democratic Nominee, it's a sure way that a Republican will win again. We need a STRONG Democratic Candidate to run for President, and even though I like Obama, I don't think he can win, either. He's just not experienced enough.

Now, I am ready for a female President, although I'm not sure the world is, however that being said, I will NEVER be ready for a Hilary Clinton Presidency.

If either Hillary or Obama get the Democratic nomination......it will be a pathetic landslide for the Republican party. I wouldn't pee in her mouth if her teeth were on fire. So far it looks like Edwards is running too. I think that he would have won last time if he had'nt been attached to Kerry. Just my opinion

Winter Hawk
post #43 of 57
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Originally Posted by LSULOVER
I have nothing against a women president, I am a woman too, I just don't think she would make a good president, therefore I will not vote for her. I think men have enough problems trying to run our government.
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Originally Posted by Snuzy View Post
That's right. Men have enough problems because they cause the problems. We need a strong woman to fix the mess.
Wow. ..........So now this is a battle of the sexes? Do you ladies really think that one sex is more competent than the other?
Men have enough problems? Sure, our pres is a man, but I don't think theres a correlation between the lousy job he's doing and the fact that he's a man.
We need a strong woman to fix it? I'd be real happy with anyone who can fix it, male or female.
post #44 of 57
Wow, and this will be going on for how many months, 22?
post #45 of 57
while I myself support most of Hilary's politics, I do not want her to be the Dem candidate becuase like someone said, that will guarantee a win for the GOP, this country is run by rich old white men and a woman will not be president for at least another 20 years unfortunately, but that's just MO. I personally am pulling for Edwards as he seems to be a fairly competent indivdual, moderate as far as Dems go
post #46 of 57
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Originally Posted by emrldsky View Post

After all that rambling, I'll say this: I don't care if the candidate is male, female, black, white, dem, repub, indep., I will vote for the person who I feel will address the issues that are important to me, and the person who will do it without damaging our ecomony.
That's how its suppose to be! Vote for the person you view as most competent for the position! Not because you think men are incompetent or because they have the same skin color as you. I will be looking forward to your vote next year!

B and I were discussing this yesterday. From his POV if Clinton, Obama, and Edwards all run for the Democratic position, there are going to be a lot of fighting and well, help the GOP because of all the drama they're causing.
I did agree with him, Obama should wait until 2012 before he throws in his hat.

I'm anxious to see who wants to run for the GOP. I'm for Guilianni to through in his hat.
post #47 of 57
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Wow, and this will be going on for how many months, 22?
Yep ! I love election season.
post #48 of 57
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
Good Grief!
post #49 of 57
I really can't stand Hillary...ugh.
post #50 of 57
I think I would vote for her. It's about time we've had a female president. I think she's the woman for the job
post #51 of 57
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Originally Posted by valanhb View Post
I have to agree with you on this one. Will wonders never cease, huh? Obama is a great speaker, but you need more than charisma to be an effective President.
I was actually under the impression that 'charisma' was the MAIN thing you needed in order to be elected (whether you'll be good at the job or not is WAAAAY down on the list for most people). JFK and Mr. Clinton are perfect examples of this. The current president is a perfect example of the other side of this coin, though he had a very charismatic campain initially. Whenever "W" opens his mouth, he sticks his foot in it. I think america will vote for someone quite the opposite of him and Obama has a good chance of being perceived as just that.

I heard Obama on the radio a few days ago. He very stongly implied that he would NOT take a role as VP. I'm personally not a big fan, but often times the vote is left to the 'lesser of two evils'. I would have voted for McCain before, but I'm not so sure now. Mrs. Clinton will likely be the LAST person to get my vote!

It'll be interesting to see where they officially stand on the issues. Especially the war.
post #52 of 57
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Originally Posted by lookingglass View Post
I'm actually a Libertarian! I just want to see this country get back to a more moderate government. I could care less if that is republican or democrat. I also love to see the nation come together and reexamine itself every four years.

I love republicans I really do, but not the way the party looks now. I'd like to see (my liberal mother is going to shoot me for this) someone like Barry Goldwater.

Very well said Heather!!!!! I agree with you on this one!
post #53 of 57
i am also going to have to agree Heather.

I dont know enough about Obama to make a choice yet. but clinton is out.she is just way to far left for me. I would still like to see John mccain, lol but he is to much in the middle for both sides to get behind.
post #54 of 57
I tend to vote for whoever I think is going to screw us over as a country the least. In the last election I decided to cast my vote for Bush..again. I figured that the devil we know has to be better than one we don't, especially when Kerry talks out of both sides of his mouth.

If Hillary would happen to win, would that make "Mr. I Can't Keep It In My Pants" the first lady.
post #55 of 57
I just know I am gonna vote, if you don't vote then you can't bitch about anything.

post #56 of 57
I don't like any of them and I don't just mean the ones running either, they are all the same. I have came to the conclusion they don't the Country to be in any better shape none of them, as long as they all get there big pay checks. And what good does to vote on issues either we vote they pass and you never see half of the crap...So I think I'll be keeping my where it's in better shape.
post #57 of 57
I think it is way to early to tell. WHY must they start this almost 2 darn years before the election?
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