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post #61 of 79
in my opinion, this is a marvelous medical breakthrough. We can PREVENT a cancer, people! If I wasn't too old, I would get the vaccine and if I had daughters, they would get the vaccine without thinking twice! I think that the only real problem people have with this is that HPV is sexually acquired and anything to do with sex makes a majority of the population uncomfortable. I understand that people don't like having the government say that we HAVE to vaccinate our daughters. Why don't people make such a fuss over the MMR or Polio vaccines? They are required for school age children, aren't they? I
post #62 of 79
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Originally Posted by Kellyyfaber View Post
Why don't people make such a fuss over the MMR or Polio vaccines? They are required for school age children, aren't they? I
probably because the method required to catch polio & MMR is considerably less personal than cervical cancer. they can be contracted thru much more casual contact, & thus are a greater hazard to the general populace.
i could conceivably catch MMR or polio from one of my primary students. but i couldn't catch HPV from one of them, even if neither of us were vaccinated against it.
post #63 of 79
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Originally Posted by crazyforinfo View Post
Make sure your doctor knows enough about HPV. Unfortunately mine didn't. My pap was abnormal and she did an HPV test and took a sample of my cervix. What she didn't' do is mark down what type of HPV I had. I later found out that it's important to know which you have from her associate. At one point I was told I didn't have HPV after going thru a painful procedure to get rid of it. (I was recovering when 9/11 happened). I had to go for paps every 3 months for over a year before it went away. Yes HPV can go away but that doesn't mean it can't come back. I also did research and found an article about nuns testing positive who never had intercourse. You can contract HPV years ago and one day it could turn up on a pap. That's something to keep in mind esp if you are about to accusing someone of cheating on you. Men don't have symptoms and there isn't a test to perform on them.

Check this site out for some information. There isn't much about the vaccine though. http://www.ashastd.org/hpv/hpv_overview.cfm
I heard about that too. I have the HPV virus but luckly my doc was very informed about it. My DH and I went in together to get the news. I can tell you it freaked me out. Ill I got was a message on th eanswering machine that said "your pap came back abnormal, we need you to come back in to talk about it". I thought I was dying. I had been with my DH for 4 years exclusivly at that point so my only thought was cancer not HPV. At the time I thought you only got it from "relations". Well my doc did more test and discovered that the strain I have is the same strain that give kids warts on their fingers. I had warts on my fingers all through my childhood. He informed us that no matter what, usually if you had warts as a kid you have HPV to. The good thing is that it is NOT the kind that will morf into cancer. The bad thing.is it can come back at anytime, but so can the ones on my hands. THe procedure to remove tham is worse than anything I have ever gone through. Its uncomfortable hurts and takes a few days to recover.

We also found out that the strain I have is not contagious but to pay attention. Men can show signs. The warts will apear to be little bumps on his private. My DH started laughing and said don't worry if I ever see bumps on it I will go straight to the ER . The reason he told us that was the HPV that can turn cancerous is contagious. So if he shows signs I need to get tested because the form I have could morph. You can pass it back and forth to aen and women, even if you are in a steady "monogomous" realationship. I always tell him if he ever cheated than he might as well just kill me because who knows what he could pass me and that could be a death sentence.

I wish I could get the vaccine. I am to old though. I hope someday it becomes a norm like the mumps vaccine for children.
post #64 of 79
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
probably because the method required to catch polio & MMR is considerably less personal than cervical cancer. they can be contracted thru much more casual contact, & thus are a greater hazard to the general populace.
i could conceivably catch MMR or polio from one of my primary students. but i couldn't catch HPV from one of them, even if neither of us were vaccinated against it.
well yeah, I realize that but the main argument that I've heard from people online and offline is that it is a *requirement*, regardless of risk or severity of the potential disease. It's the fact that the government can require it, from what I've been hearing. I might ought to inform you, though---my husband is employed by Merck and I am extremely pro-Merck If it wasn't a good vaccine, though--I would not put myself behind it.
post #65 of 79
I have heard the argument that it should not be mandatory because its like giving kids a free pass for s. e. x. This is one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. I understand it because while yes it will protect young womand form one thing it does not protect them from the others. We as a society have realized that kids do it. They have from the beginiing of time and they still will. I have noticed that young men and women are starting to be ALOT more open and careless than they ever have in the past. The people that make tis argument are the same ones that do not want s. e. x ed in schools. I think the more info young people are given and the more things they have to protect them selves the better they will be.

Other vaccines like polio and mumps are not a big deal. Those diseses are not contracted through s. e. x. because of that no one worries about it.

Some people are just not ready to hear that kids experiment. They want to believe that it won't happen untill marrage. Well if thats the bubble someone wants to be in let them. They are the same people who want dodge ball banned in schools. It is our duty to protect and inform the youth not shelter them.
post #66 of 79
This was in Yahoo health today...
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070315/...etnK57EavVJRIF
Knock yourself out!
post #67 of 79
This thread has been quiet but I wanted to revive it because I was going to try to get the vaccine. In a different thread I said I wasn't too convinced on it since it's pretty new, however... with me being newly single and less than a year to being 26 (ie. the cut off point currently for the vaccine), I figure it can't hurt to take it. I've been doing a lot of research on HPV and was shocked to find how common it is, I personally know two people who have it and even though I know the vaccine doesn't protect you from all kinds of HPV, at least it'll protect me somewhat from the kinds that lead to cancer. Sad to say but that's gotta be better than nothing.
post #68 of 79
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I agree with the above poster.
Amber has had her second shot now and other than some SLIGHT tenderness at the injection site, she hasn't had ANY problems with it.
I feel so much more at peace, knowing that I have protected my Daughter from possible Cancer in her future.
post #69 of 79
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
I agree with the above poster.
Amber has had her second shot now and other than some SLIGHT tenderness at the injection site, she hasn't had ANY problems with it.
I feel so much more at peace, knowing that I have protected my Daughter from possible Cancer in her future.
that's great for you!
my only issue with this vaccine is the fact that our governor is making it mandatory. otherwise, i'm fine with it being an available choice.
post #70 of 79
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Originally Posted by Sandtigress View Post
My understanding of the vaccine was that it only prevented infection by specific strains of HPV that were believed (scientifically proven?) to cause cervical cancer (not an argument, just not sure if they did for certain or just linked). That being the case, doens't that mean that there are natural means of developing cervical cancer that would NOT be prevented by the vaccine? I just want to try and clear that up because that commercial always annoys me when they don't mention that HPV is a sexually transmitted disorder.

My previous post aside - if the man that I might someday marry had a previous sexual history and thus might have the possibility of having HPV, I would be okay with getting the vaccine before marriage. But that's the only reason that I can foresee myself getting it.

The point is to give it to girls before they are sexually active. The age they want to give it at most girls dont even know if they are going to have sex yet think about it. If girls wait till they have sex then it may be to late. That is the point. Give it to them before so if they ever do wether its at age 16 or 33 they are vaccinated. Not only that if a girl is ever raped they are also vaccinated and that is not something that any girl or women plans on but at least if it were to happen they are protected from HPV. Although I don't really know if they know enough about it yet. I'd have to do more research to feel 100% comfortable with it.
post #71 of 79
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Originally Posted by laureen227 View Post
my only issue with this vaccine is the fact that our governor is making it mandatory. otherwise, i'm fine with it being an available choice.
I don't think I like the fact that it is mandatory because it's such a new vaccine and I think more research needs to be done on it... but I can see the thinking behind it. I mean, so many parents might think "well my child isn't doing that sort of thing so she doesn't need the vaccine" when the child *could* be sexually active and the parents don't know it. Or maybe the child remains a virgin til marriage... but the man she marries did not, maybe had sex one time, got HPV and didn't know it (since there's no HPV test for men) and then the woman gets it.

I dunno... I guess just from what I've been reading, I'm still thinking "better safe than sorry".
post #72 of 79
I seriously wish that this vaccine had been available when I was a tween. It would have saved me so much fear, discomfort and pain.

I was diagnosed with cervical cancer after having had a LEEP procedure. THe bad news was that it was cancer, caused by HPV. The good news is that they caught it all before it metastacized. I was lucky.

My daughter was also lucky - her diagnosis was NOT cervical cancer, but she, too, had a LEEP procedure to remove precancerous cells from her cervix, also caused by HPV.

If it had been available when she was a child, I would have ABSOLUTELY required that she be vaccinated against it. And having been through what we have both been through, mother and daughter, I will absolutely support manditory vaccination.

You can't know how scary it is unless your life has been directly affected by it, and once you get it you have it for life and can pass it to all of your future sexual partners who will then pass it along to all of theirs.

The intention is to bring an end to this invasive disease. Again, as someone with HPV who has had to deal with the consequences, I support the vaccine and believe it should be manditory.
post #73 of 79
Okay I got the first of 3 injections today... I was pleased to hear, when I called my health insurance, that they covered 100% of the cost. Anyway, it hurts where they injected me but oh well.

On THAT note... I was looking online and it says the 2nd injection should be two months after the first, then the 3rd 6 months after the first.

So why did they make me make an appointment for ONE month later?

Does anyone know how it's supposed to be? I'm gonna research to make sure they're not gonna mess everything up...
post #74 of 79
Thread Starter 
No, it should be 2 months after the FIRST injection that you get the second and then 6 months after the FIRST one, you get the last one.
I would call back and ask if there was a mix-up.
post #75 of 79
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
No, it should be 2 months after the FIRST injection that you get the second and then 6 months after the FIRST one, you get the last one.
I would call back and ask if there was a mix-up.
That sounds right. I'm gonna call in a bit. Sigh. And I still feel sore!
post #76 of 79
Thread Starter 
Amber was sore for about 2-3 days and then she didn't feel anything.She did kind of feel blah for a day also.But, she hasn't had any other side effects from the shots.She's had 2 now and will get her last one when she starts back to school in the Fall.(she's getting them done at School)
post #77 of 79
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
Amber was sore for about 2-3 days and then she didn't feel anything.She did kind of feel blah for a day also.But, she hasn't had any other side effects from the shots.She's had 2 now and will get her last one when she starts back to school in the Fall.(she's getting them done at School)
How do you mean by she felt blah, if you don't mind me asking?
post #78 of 79
Thread Starter 
Sorry, I just now saw this.She felt kind of tired and a bit weak.NOTHING bad though.
post #79 of 79
Just an FYI for Aussies, the Australian government is offering the vaccine free for 12-26 year olds.
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/st...f/Content/home
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