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post #1 of 28
1/16/07 at 10:31pm
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anyone heard of this? I saw it yesterday and forgot to mention it.
Here's the story
http://home.peoplepc.com/psp/newssto...70115816599044
here's a LITTLE bit of the write up on it
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A New York hospital is taking steps to offer the nation's first uterus transplant, a radical experiment that might allow women whose wombs were removed or are defective to bear children.

The wombs would come from dead donors, just as most other organs do, and would be removed after the recipient gives birth so she would not need anti-rejection drugs her whole life.
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post #2 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:33am
That is interesting, and it could help many women who are unable to carry a pregnancy to term.

I wouldn't mind donating my uterus if someone needs it -I don't need it anymore!
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post #3 of 28
1/17/07 at 3:24am
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I wouldn't have minded either to donate mine.But, I don't have it anymore.....thanks to having a Hysterectomy.
I think it would be a nice jester, IF it works!!!
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post #4 of 28
1/17/07 at 11:38am
I could never do it myself-- too much risk for a surgery like that when it is medically unneccesary.

But if a woman is willing to risk her own death to have a child, then why not?

It's scary though-- organ transplants used to be done only when medically necessary (like a liver, heart valve, etc) and now they're doing "convenience" transplants like this, the face transplant in france, can't remember them all.

At what point does progress become sci-fi?
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post #5 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:00pm
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My Dad had a few skin graphs from dead donors after his surgury to TRY and remove the Cancer.
So, that really opened my eyes to organ donors.
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post #6 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:02pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
But if a woman is willing to risk her own death to have a child, then why not?
I just wanted to point out that women risk their own lives all the time for cosmetic surgery. So IMO I can't see anything wrong with this.
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post #7 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:04pm
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Originally Posted by Jenny82 View Post
I just wanted to point out that women risk their own lives all the time for cosmetic surgery. So IMO I can't see nothing wrong with this.
I didn't see anything wrong with it either. However, an organ transplant is inherently and significantly a whole lot different and more dangerous than any cosmetic surgery legal in the US.
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post #8 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:37pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I didn't see anything wrong with it either. However, an organ transplant is inherently and significantly a whole lot different and more dangerous than any cosmetic surgery legal in the US.
That might be true, but I think there are a lot more risks with cosmetic surgery than we realize. I was just looking for a comparison to point out that a uterus transplant would probably be done for a much better reason.
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post #9 of 28
1/17/07 at 12:52pm
I don't see anything wrong with it and IF it works what wonderful gift it would be to someone who wants children and can't have them.

We have four children and I thank God for them everyday.
I also know the other side of the coin I have a very dear friend who tried for years to have a child.
Her and her Husband were able to adopt and they love their Daughter beyond all words, but sometimes she will still say to me how much she wishes she could have had the experiance of pregnancy and child birth.
I joke with her and tell her that being pregnant and giving birth is no picnic, but I do understand why she feels the way she does.

I'm an organ donor and when I go....hopefully a VERY LONG time from now...if someone wants mine they're more than welcome to it...although after four kids it might be worn out!!!
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post #10 of 28
1/17/07 at 1:06pm
Can't I just give mine away? Seriously, there's nothing wrong with it, and I'm never going to use it!
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post #11 of 28
1/17/07 at 1:09pm
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I wish I could have done that.But, mine was of NO use to anyone!!
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post #12 of 28
1/17/07 at 2:51pm
ummm... sounds unnesscary to me. There are plenty of wonderful kids in the foster system, why not give them a shot at a good home?
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post #13 of 28
1/17/07 at 4:14pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
It's scary though-- organ transplants used to be done only when medically necessary (like a liver, heart valve, etc) and now they're doing "convenience" transplants like this, the face transplant in france, can't remember them all.
I don't see why anyone says a face transplant like that was a matter of convenience or cosmetic. I think if you had to live with half your face chewed off, you'd have a much different view about what was "necessary".
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post #14 of 28
1/17/07 at 6:11pm
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Originally Posted by Kiwideus View Post
That is interesting, and it could help many women who are unable to carry a pregnancy to term.

I wouldn't mind donating my uterus if someone needs it -I don't need it anymore!
I don't want kids...you can take mine
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post #15 of 28
1/17/07 at 6:29pm
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Originally Posted by pushylady View Post
I don't see why anyone says a face transplant like that was a matter of convenience or cosmetic. I think if you had to live with half your face chewed off, you'd have a much different view about what was "necessary".
Mm. Not cosmetic, necessarily. Sort of comparable to reconstructive surgery. And I'm not saying it shouldn't have been done, in that case. My point was more that that event was a marker, as is this one, in a continuum where, on one end, we use other people's organs after their death (or not, such as with kidneys) to save someone's life who could absolutely not have lived without it, and on the far other end we use them for much different reasons. Things that go somewhere in the middle are things like the face transplant and limbs, and things that are further towards convenience/cosmetic would be things like the uterine transplant. I'm thinking ahead to when we can actually do transplants that are not medical in the slightest. A tangential point, maybe. Is it a slippery slope argument? Possibly... but if we don't think about every step that is deemed as "progress" then sometimes we end up in places we really don't want to be. Like eating cloned meat... what else will be cloned? Pets? Is it a huge step from Fluffy to Junior? Is it a step we should?

Often I just find that people believe just because we can do something, we should.
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post #16 of 28
1/17/07 at 8:30pm
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ummm... sounds unnesscary to me. There are plenty of wonderful kids in the foster system, why not give them a shot at a good home?
I agree I would definitely adopt if i were unable to have a child...i'm even considering it anyways in addition to having my own biological kids- i don't care eithor way if a child were to be my own "flesh and blood" or adopted- eithor way, i would love it the same I do however plan to donate my organs when i pass away- so if someone were to benifit from my uterus or other parts.....why not help them I can't use them when i'm no longer around. So for me personally- i wouldn't want a transplant done on me- i'd rather adopt. But if i were to pass away and someone needed my organs- i would be happy for them to benifit from them
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post #17 of 28
1/18/07 at 3:35am
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I would LOVE to donate mine......if I had one.
I think it's a wonderful thing for anyone who's tried the IVF,adoption,and all other things and NOTHING worked for them.
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post #18 of 28
1/18/07 at 9:44am
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
I would LOVE to donate mine......if I had one.
I think it's a wonderful thing for anyone who's tried the IVF,adoption,and all other things and NOTHING worked for them.

How can adoption not work?
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post #19 of 28
1/18/07 at 10:06am
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
How can adoption not work?
Do you, or anybody discussing how they'd love to adopt, have any idea how extremely difficult it is? Why do you think there are so many foreign adoptions? There are simply far too many couples/singles for far too few kids. Even China has recently tightened its adoption laws, thus preventing many people from adopting because they are too old, too heavy, too poor, etc..
My husband and I really wanted children, but every pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. When we tried to adopt, he was nearly 36, and thus "too old", I was a foreign citizen, and therefore not "ideal", and private and foreign adoptions were illegal at the time. Even though the laws have been liberalized since then, not even 10% of those wishing to adopt here actually are able to do so, simply because the children (even older or special needs) aren't "available".
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post #20 of 28
1/18/07 at 10:17am
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Do you, or anybody discussing how they'd love to adopt, have any idea how extremely difficult it is? Why do you think there are so many foreign adoptions? There are simply far too many couples/singles for far too few kids. Even China has recently tightened its adoption laws, thus preventing many people from adopting because they are too old, too heavy, too poor, etc..
My husband and I really wanted children, but every pregnancy ended in a miscarriage. When we tried to adopt, he was nearly 36, and thus "too old", I was a foreign citizen, and therefore not "ideal", and private and foreign adoptions were illegal at the time. Even though the laws have been liberalized since then, not even 10% of those wishing to adopt here actually are able to do so, simply because the children (even older or special needs) aren't "available".
My cousins have adopted two children, both as babies. My mother's friend helps organize adoptions through a non-profit anti-abortion group. And yes, I do know that it is difficult, especially if you're just dead-set on having a newborn baby. But getting an organ transplant should be difficult too.
Anyway, I know it is difficult and I am truly sorry they wouldn't let you adopt a child But I think things at least a little different in the US, as we have a much higher birth rate. There was a group home for unadopted children in my school district growing up, and most of them nobody had ever tried to adopt because they weren't white or had a disability like FAS (the sad awful truth, as said by them).
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post #21 of 28
1/18/07 at 3:33pm
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
How can adoption not work?
How can adoption not work? Have you ever heard of couples who are waiting for the baby of thier dreams and have everything all bought for the baby and then the Mother decides she doesn't want to give up her baby? Or about those who take the baby home ONLY to have them snatched from their loving arms by the Birth Mother cause she's had a change of heart?
I was trying to adopt a 2 year old, he was the Son of my Best Friend at the time. EVERYTHING was set.Clothes, you name it were gotten for him. She decided at the LAST minute that she couldn't handle coming over to my house and him calling me Mom.So, she took away MY rights to him and he was placed in Foster Care for YEARS!!!! She lied to me and told me he was adopted within a month of me trying to adopt him.She LIED!!!! I had the chance to meet up with this special boy last year.He is 19 now and I cried. He SHOULD have been mine!!!!
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post #22 of 28
1/18/07 at 4:54pm
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Originally Posted by crittermom View Post
How can adoption not work? Have you ever heard of couples who are waiting for the baby of thier dreams and have everything all bought for the baby and then the Mother decides she doesn't want to give up her baby? Or about those who take the baby home ONLY to have them snatched from their loving arms by the Birth Mother cause she's had a change of heart?
I was trying to adopt a 2 year old, he was the Son of my Best Friend at the time. EVERYTHING was set.Clothes, you name it were gotten for him. She decided at the LAST minute that she couldn't handle coming over to my house and him calling me Mom.So, she took away MY rights to him and he was placed in Foster Care for YEARS!!!! She lied to me and told me he was adopted within a month of me trying to adopt him.She LIED!!!! I had the chance to meet up with this special boy last year.He is 19 now and I cried. He SHOULD have been mine!!!!
That just breaks my heart.
The same thing happend to the Sister of someone I used to work with.
At the last minute the Birth Mother changed her mind, they were just heartbroken.
The sad part is, two years later the little boy was taken from his Birth Mother she was thrown in jail for selling drugs.
They did eventually adopt another child, but the thoughts of what should have been are always in their minds.
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post #23 of 28
1/18/07 at 5:02pm
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John Paul will always be on my mind.It was so nice to see him and be able to hold him once again.
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post #24 of 28
1/18/07 at 7:30pm
Coming from someone who put a child up for adoption (family adopted him) I never understood people coming back 6mths, a year or 2 yrs or more coming back and saying you want the child back. My son was adopted 10 yrs ago this year and when he was 2 or 3 yrs old I was back on my feet and doing good and everyone always asked me why I didn't go back and get him. My response always was (and always will be) its cruel to take a child away from the only family he has known since he was 6 mths old.
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post #25 of 28
1/18/07 at 7:39pm
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I agree!!!! I had him for a month and then he was taken from me.
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post #26 of 28
1/18/07 at 7:42pm
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I agree!!!! I had him for a month and then he was taken from me.
I am sorry that happened to you. When I did what I did it was very hard on me. I had to move away and went down a bad bad path because that decision was so hard on me. 10 yrs later its still hard but I get by.
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post #27 of 28
1/18/07 at 8:07pm
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ummm... sounds unnesscary to me. There are plenty of wonderful kids in the foster system, why not give them a shot at a good home?
That's basically where I come down on all issues of assisted reproductive technology. I have a hard time seeing well-off people going to the ends of the earth to create a baby when so many children are growing up without families.

That being said, I would have less of an issue with a uterus transplant than I do with techniques like IVF that involve creating embryos in a petri dish (and ultimately, if unintentionally, destroying most of them). I'd draw the line at ovary transplant, though.

Not judging anyone's actions - just giving my personal opinion on the issue.
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post #28 of 28
1/19/07 at 1:58am
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Originally Posted by Ping View Post
I am sorry that happened to you. When I did what I did it was very hard on me. I had to move away and went down a bad bad path because that decision was so hard on me. 10 yrs later its still hard but I get by.
I'm sorry you were faced with having to make that decision.I can only imagine how hard that way.
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