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post #1 of 25
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Out of the blue yesterday, I got called into the HR office at work and was told I no longer have a job -- effective immediately. Apparently they needed someone with different skills? (And yet at no point was I ever told I lacked the skills needed for the position -- the position appeared to have been built around my skill-set -- nor was I ever given work I was unable to do.) I'm pissed off and hurt, of course, because I never saw this coming. I'd been effectively doing the work of three different people, being paid for one job (the lowest-paying one, of course), and fairly recently I had asked for and been given new equipment in order to do my job. It's like someone woke up yesterday morning and decided I just had to go.

I keep telling myself that it's for the best: I hated that job. Every time my supervisor passed my desk I cringed, thinking he'd misplaced something (again) or had made an error on some data sheet that I would have to correct (again). Everyone was always so stressed and unhappy there; it was truly a miserable place to work, and I'm better off not working there. (At no point did I behave like I felt this way, however -- my attitude at work was always friendly, professional and upbeat.) And I'm glad they waited until after Christmas, so at least my holiday bills are paid off. Still, I feel completely demoralized, like what the hell is wrong with me that I can't find a job, or that the ones I do find don't want to keep me? I'm smart, I'm hardworking, I have a positive attitude. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.

And I also don't know what to put on my resume, where you're supposed to say your reason for leaving the position. I left because I was apparently useless? I can't say that! I don't know what to say that won't make me look like a total loser.

I'm also confused as to whether or not I'm getting two weeks' pay, since I didn't get two weeks' notice. I was basically called into the office yesterday at 4:20pm (ten minutes before my work day ended) and told not to come back. How does that work? I was too shocked to ask any questions (honestly, I was afraid I'd start crying if I even tried to speak), so now I don't know what's going on, but I've worked there for four months -- doesn't that entitle me to either two weeks' notice or two weeks' pay? *sigh*

I'm unhappy and relieved at the same time. I couldn't see myself working there in the long-run (not that I ever let this be known), and I really was miserable and stressed-out working there. It's a horrible place to work. It's just that now I'm left feeling like a loser, like I'm a drain on my fiance (who gets to support me again and it seems like I've spent more time unemployed during our relationship than I have spent being employed), and basically totally demoralized. What the hell is wrong with me?!?
post #2 of 25
OH NO!! That is awful, they didn't give you any warning to see if you could improve at all??

That must be so scary for you, they should at least give you 2 weeks, I think they have to..You shoul check into that for sure.

to you, I know things will work out. After all, you weren't happy there.
post #3 of 25
Oh heck, thats just terrible I am sorry to hear this and rather perplexed, this sort of "dismissal" doesnt sound legal to me............could you get some advice about how this matter was handled and what your rights are ?
Keep us posted, I am sure this is wrong !!
post #4 of 25
I am sorry to hear this. All you can do is get back out there and find another job. Good luck with the job search.
post #5 of 25
Some states (NC is one ) are "right to work" states, and you can be fired at any time unless you have a written contract of employment. No reason has to be given, they can just walk up and say "you're outta here" and you are done. No severance, nothing. It sucks, but you have to live with the law.

Good luck starting a new career!
post #6 of 25
Oh, man, I'm so sorry they did you like that Mirinae There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with you, please don't take this personally, obviously the company is run by a bunch of booty-heads. You'll find something new, something that won't make you miserable
post #7 of 25
How horrible!!! That totally sucks.

As for the 2 weeks pay, if you're fired they may pay you to keep quiet (i.e. not go to a lawyer and attempt to sue for wrong dismissal), but in some states businesses are not required to do that.

Find out if you're an "at will" employment state. This may make all the difference (means here in MI that a business can fire you at anytime).

At least this gives you a chance to start a new path in life though! Good luck with your job search: Sending good {{{{VIBES}}}} that you'll find something you like and soon!
post #8 of 25
Well, they probably have the right to can anyone they want after 4 months, you probably have no recourse other than what you are eligible for in the way of unemployment.

Since you did not leave voluntarily you ARE eligible for unemployment providing you worked enough quarters in the past. Make sure you sign up for it NOW, If the employer fights paying the UC, they will have to prove they had justification for letting you go. It doesn't sound like they disciplined you or gave you any warnings, and even if they did, I think you would still be eligible.

As far as what to say on your resume, if you think the skills you used or learned at that job are important, then list the job.
If not, you were only there for 4 months, you need not include it.

If you include and then are asked why did you leave, the answer is, it wasn't what I expected, I thought I would be trained on.., not enough responsibility.. you know BS.
Never say anything negative about the job, the company, or yourself.

Don't feel bad, everyone gets canned at some time or other. It just wasn't a good match. You will find something much better, this is a blessing in disguise.
post #9 of 25
Man, that is rude! Sounds par for the course for that place if it's that miserable.
You should be entitled to severance of 2 weeks as you've been there for over 3 months. I believe after 3 months they have to give you notice and/or severance.
You could say you were downsized - last in, first to go- on your resume.
Good luck in you job search!
post #10 of 25
Thats awful- I hope you find something-else soon and I'd give your fiancee a big hug for the support he has given you in the past
post #11 of 25
I am sorry for the way you were treated. Ohio is one of the states where a company can fire you in this manner. Fortunately I work for a company that only does it if your on 90 days probation which everyone starts on. After that there is a process so someone knows it is coming and have clearcut things they have to do to keep their job.
post #12 of 25
I'm sorry to hear that. Do you know if you were on probation and if so, how long was the probation period. Generally it is 3 months, but I've known places with a 6 month probation period. If you were paid weekly, they can give you 1 weeks' pay, bi-weekly, 2 weeks' pay, etc.

Don't let this get you down - I had a similar experience several years ago and it was devastating. I had always had good performance reviews over the years but this woman was brutal to me. I really was in tears in her office but in hindsight I realize she did me a huge favour. I was told going in that people in her department didn't stay/last long so that eased the pain somewhat.

You need to keep your confidence up and there will be days it will be difficult. Good jobs are so difficult to find these days (our daughter was out of work for 1 year and finally got a really great job). Hang tough, come and get good vibes from all of us and keep your chin up. We're all rooting for you
post #13 of 25
Oh honey, I am so very sorry.

Take a day or two off and catch your breath. Check out your resume. Go to your state job service office and probably there will be something waiting for you.

You don't need this heartache or headache. Give your babies a hug and a kitty kiss. They love you just because.
post #14 of 25
I see that you're in Ontario, and I don't know what the laws are in Canada. My advice would be to visit your local Labor Commissioner's office to have them explain your rights. I just don't know if you have Labor Commissioners in Canada.

Hopefully something better will turn up soon. I think it is heartless to fire someone without having first warned them about performance issues, and giving them some time to work on an improvement plan. I'm really sorry this happened to you.
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by KittenKiya View Post
Oh honey, I am so very sorry.

Take a day or two off and catch your breath. Check out your resume. Go to your state job service office and probably there will be something waiting for you.

You don't need this heartache or headache. Give your babies a hug and a kitty kiss. They love you just because.
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I see that you're in Ontario, and I don't know what the laws are in Canada. My advice would be to visit your local Labor Commissioner's office to have them explain your rights. I just don't know if you have Labor Commissioners in Canada.

Hopefully something better will turn up soon. I think it is heartless to fire someone without having first warned them about performance issues, and giving them some time to work on an improvement plan. I'm really sorry this happened to you.
First of all, you did nothing wrong. They gave you no opportunity to fix the situation. And you do not need to put any reason on a resume as to why you left a job. (And if it should come up in an interview - just state the truth, they decided you were not an appropriate fit for that position).

Second, while it is painful, it sounds like this is an opportunity to move to something better (you know, that "when a door closes, a window opens"). Find out what resources are available from the government and utilize them as fully as you can. You still have a job, just it is looking for a job.

Good luck and we're all here for you.
post #16 of 25
That is awful! I am sorry that this happened to you. They could have at least given you a some kind of warning first. Good luck on the job search.
post #17 of 25
Though I am in AB right now, I moved here from ON in September. My previous job was as office manager for a medium sized company in Toronto.
There are some standards written into the labour code re: notice/severance, but they do not apply to workers who have been employed less than 6 months. However, in the absence of "just cause" an employer can not fire you without a preliminary warning step, ie a letter/meeting etc. Just Cause of course is somethign like willful disregard to known company policy, absenteeism, chronic lateness etc. Doesnt sound like that is the case here. Telephone your now former employer today. State that you felt a little stunned to ask questions at the time, and would like a) an explanation as to why you were let go (they are obligated to provide a reason) and b) question what type of severance you might get in lieu of notice as you had completed the standard 3 month probation period (in ON, the standard is 3 mos, assuming full time hours during those 3 mos). After 6 months you are entitled to 2 weeks notice/2 weeks severance. So you should get at least one....
Good Luck, and dont worry...there are lots of better jobs for you to find that wont make you miserable!
post #18 of 25
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Originally Posted by neetanddave View Post
Some states (NC is one ) are "right to work" states, and you can be fired at any time unless you have a written contract of employment. No reason has to be given, they can just walk up and say "you're outta here" and you are done. No severance, nothing. It sucks, but you have to live with the law.

Good luck starting a new career!
Indiana has that law too... "at will." I've been a victim of that... it sucks!! They usually gave some lame excuse. It is horribly demoralizing when they fire you like that. Good luck finding a new job, Mirinae... something better will come along. Make sure to apply for unemployment and at a temp agency. They usually don't provide benefits, but they pay higher to compensate.
post #19 of 25
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post #20 of 25
that sucks....I'm so sorry your feeling down. I know this will be a scary time in your life with starting a new chapter, but I agree with Gail, take this as a blessing in disguise. You hated it there, can you collect unemployment till you get a new job? Alot of times companies can hire someone for less than what you make to take your place.... they did that here at my company. They went through what they called a "restructuring" which basically meant laying off people who had been here too long or made too much $, then they could hire 10 people to do 10 different jobs, for a tenth of the price..... it sucks. We're here if you need us!
post #21 of 25
I'm so sorry to hear this! Will you be able to draw unemployment?
I'm unemployed right now too, kinda happened the same way yours did!

Keep your chin up, it'll all be okay!
post #22 of 25
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Originally Posted by Mirinae View Post
Out of the blue yesterday, I got called into the HR office at work and was told I no longer have a job -- effective immediately.
I'm so sorry What a shock!

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Apparently they needed someone with different skills? (And yet at no point was I ever told I lacked the skills needed for the position -- the position appeared to have been built around my skill-set -- nor was I ever given work I was unable to do.)
It sounds like there was something more to it. Perhaps one of the higher ups had a relative looking for a job? I know that's happened to me in the past when I've been let go from a job and given some lame reason.

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I'm pissed off and hurt, of course, because I never saw this coming. I'd been effectively doing the work of three different people, being paid for one job (the lowest-paying one, of course), and fairly recently I had asked for and been given new equipment in order to do my job. It's like someone woke up yesterday morning and decided I just had to go.
You have every right to be upset. What happened is certainly a shock and it's never fun to be suddenly out of work especially when you are really dependent on the income from said work.

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I keep telling myself that it's for the best: I hated that job. Every time my supervisor passed my desk I cringed, thinking he'd misplaced something (again) or had made an error on some data sheet that I would have to correct (again). Everyone was always so stressed and unhappy there; it was truly a miserable place to work, and I'm better off not working there. (At no point did I behave like I felt this way, however -- my attitude at work was always friendly, professional and upbeat.) And I'm glad they waited until after Christmas, so at least my holiday bills are paid off.
If you didn't like the job, then it probably is for the best. Going to a job that you don't like is really stressful and can take it's toll on you.

Also, consider this.... for every door that closes, another one opens, and the next job might very well turn out to be your dream job

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Still, I feel completely demoralized, like what the hell is wrong with me that I can't find a job, or that the ones I do find don't want to keep me? I'm smart, I'm hardworking, I have a positive attitude. I don't understand what I'm doing wrong.
Don't let it affect your self esteem. You sound like you have a number of wonderful qualities. Try not to dwell on what happened. I doubt you did anything wrong. It was probably something internal like someone's daughter needing a job so they picked your job and gave you a lame reason for letting you go.

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And I also don't know what to put on my resume, where you're supposed to say your reason for leaving the position. I left because I was apparently useless? I can't say that! I don't know what to say that won't make me look like a total loser.
I'm pretty good at writing up resumes. Let me give that one some thought and I'll post back.

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I'm also confused as to whether or not I'm getting two weeks' pay, since I didn't get two weeks' notice. I was basically called into the office yesterday at 4:20pm (ten minutes before my work day ended) and told not to come back. How does that work? I was too shocked to ask any questions (honestly, I was afraid I'd start crying if I even tried to speak), so now I don't know what's going on, but I've worked there for four months -- doesn't that entitle me to either two weeks' notice or two weeks' pay? *sigh*
You should either have gotten 2 weeks notice or 2 weeks pay in lieu of notice. I'm surprised that the HR person didn't mention that to you. It was unprofessional of them not to. Call them and ask them about 2 weeks pay in lieu of not having received 2 weeks notice of termination.

And ask what reason for the termination they are going to be putting on your record of employment.

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I'm unhappy and relieved at the same time. I couldn't see myself working there in the long-run (not that I ever let this be known), and I really was miserable and stressed-out working there. It's a horrible place to work. It's just that now I'm left feeling like a loser, like I'm a drain on my fiance (who gets to support me again and it seems like I've spent more time unemployed during our relationship than I have spent being employed), and basically totally demoralized. What the hell is wrong with me?!?
You are not a loser. The company doesn't sound that great from what you have said. Take a few days to rest up and then start looking for something else. And make sure you present yourself in a positive light. If you believe you are a good, valuable, dependable, reliable, hardworking and efficient person, then you will come across that way. If you consider yourself a "loser" and "not worthy" then that will be projected to potential employers and you don't want that.

Also, just a bit of insight as to why they told you at 4:20pm and not at the start of the day, and the reason for not giving you 2 weeks notice.....

It's a companies way to prevent an employee from deleting or tampering with work files. Many companies these days don't give 2 weeks notice. They would rather play it safe and pay 2 weeks of wages than to give the person time to destroy things.

Back in 1994 I was working as a paralegal for a female lawyer. When I first started there the office was a smoking office and she used my "asthma" as an excuse to turn the office into a non smoking one. About 10 months into my employment she's suddenly starting to allow people to smoke, and when I mentioned it she would say something like "if it's bothering you it might be better if we helped find you something in a non smoking office" or something along those lines.

I figured right then that she was trying to get rid of me for some reason but because of our employment insurance laws where I live if you quit your job you don't qualify for employment insurance. So I decided that if she wanted me gone she would have to be the bad guy. I had already decided that I was going to be quitting in the spring in order to take some classes and return to school full time.

Anyway one Thursday in January she asked if I could come into work early the next day to get some court documents ready. So I went in 2 hours early the next day (Friday). That same Friday in January, almost to the day that I had started there, she calls me from the court house almost at 5pm and asks me if I can stay a couple of hours overtime in order to do up some affidavits for a really important case. I agreed.

Also, that Friday morning my bank called her for an employment reference for a loan that I was trying to secure and she gave them one.

Anyway, she comes into the office and we work on the affidavits with her clients until almost 8:00pm. After the clients left I reminded her of payday. She once again claimed to have "forgotten". She said she would have her mother do up the payroll and she would come by my home on Sunday and drop off my pay cheque to me. I told her that I needed my pay cheque "today" because I had bills that needed to be paid and financial committments to meet.

When she saw that I wasn't leaving without my pay cheque, she went to her brief case and pulled out an envelope that contained my pay cheque and then told me that the cheque contained an additional 2 weeks of wages in lieu of 2 weeks notice. She then added that she was letting me go because she finds that she can't afford 2 full time people and that she needs to have one of the positions go part time and since I was the new kid on the block so to speak, it was my position.

At no time did she ever approach me about part time. The coward planned on dropping the bomb on me on Sunday when I was well away from her office.

I later found out from the other girl in the office that the "part time" person turned out to be the lawyers previous secretary who returned to the city looking for work. The part time status lasted all of 2 weeks and then she was made full time again.
post #23 of 25
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much, everyone, for all the kind words and vibes! I'm trying to look at this as a good thing and not so much as a setback. Like I said, I hated it there and it was a miserable work environment. I will find something better to do for a living.

Many and warm thoughts to you all!
post #24 of 25
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Originally Posted by Mirinae View Post
Thanks so much, everyone, for all the kind words and vibes! I'm trying to look at this as a good thing and not so much as a setback. Like I said, I hated it there and it was a miserable work environment. I will find something better to do for a living.

Many and warm thoughts to you all!
Remember that there are a lot of people here willing to help you with the resume and support. Just need to ask.
post #25 of 25
Mirinae, I'm late to this thread, and you've already got lots of good advice. So, let me just say that what they did stinks, and send you lots of "find a fantastic new job" vibes.
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