Some people are too stupid to own animals..

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Originally Posted by icklemiss21

...Despite the fact that they seem close minded, the fact that they bothered to call at all instead of just throwing the animal out on the streets, or leaving it to die in a house after they move etc says something for them in my mind, even if they argue with you, maybe some of it (after they get off the phone) actually makes sense to them.
Thank you! That is what I was trying to say. I'd like to add that the difficult ones (who want to hear what they want to hear) are the most misguided, and need the most help. And they are reaching out somehow, because they are talking to someone!

What a tough job, though, to do this all day long, very demanding.

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WOuld you rather they didnt call ???

I do think shelters could have some safeguards...

story from last weekend

Humane society came with two six year old dogs ( med-large( 50-75lbs)

Both dogs were sweet and well behaved ... the female was returned 3times to the shelter ... why ... once she knocked over a 3 yr old child ( umm her tag said no kids under 6 ) ... the other two she got out of the yard ( the tag said she climbs fences( ie no chain link)... i worry more about this than an misguided "idiot" on the phone that needs someone to TELL them what to do
 

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Originally Posted by lionessrampant

I get calls like that all the time at work (I work at a no-kill rescue/sanctuary for sick and injured strays). And I'd have to agree with your s/n comment...

The best one last week was the lady who wanted to return her adopted cat to us because it kept vomitting. She told us that because of the vomit issues, the cat shouldn't be adopted back out. When asked for a vet reference, she was unable to provide one
This cat was adopted in '98...and people wonder why we basically give people the third degree these days when they want to adopt. FYI, the cat is fine...it just needed Rx food.

And yeah, I've actually heard the "my pet doesn't match my new decor" line before. Disgusting. Who exactly is letting people adopt these animals?
It's an animal not a broken toaster!

...and tell me you're not serious about the "decor" comment.. That's rediculous. If it were me I'd tell them "Yeah well I'm sure you don't match the drapes either"



SwampWitch - I think passing judgement and making comments about these people outside of work is fine. It's how you handle them over the phone/to their face and the experience you give them at that moment that matters most. I'm pretty sure of them hanging up thinking "God they're going to think I'm an idiot..." anyway
 

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Originally Posted by ReesesPBC

I think passing judgement and making comments about these people outside of work is fine. It's how you handle them over the phone/to their face and the experience you give them at that moment that matters most. I'm pretty sure of them hanging up thinking "God they're going to think I'm an idiot..." anyway
That's pretty much it. In my customer service experience, you never let the customer know you think they're a moron, and you do your very best to work through their problem. But afterwards, if their problem was something like them not plugging in their computer in the first place, or leaving on the cat's collar when they tried to give it to the Humane Society as a found "stray," yeah, you gotta laugh about it. (Or cry. Or scream in anger.)

I think the majority of the people you deal with while working in animal shelters are well-meaning, good-intentioned folks who have fallen on hard times, or who have found themselves in over their heads, and who genuinely need help and intend to do their best by their pets or by the animals they've found. It's the ones who aren't -- the ones who surrender their pets because they don't match the decor, or the ones who claim their cats are actually strays to avoid paying a $50 surrendering fee (when they can well afford that price), or who blame the shelter workers for something that's their own damn fault -- that get absolutely no sympathy from me. If, after dealing with these kinds of people, shelter workers feel the need to vent or laugh it off, I can completely understand where they're coming from.
 

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Originally Posted by lionessrampant

And yeah, I've actually heard the "my pet doesn't match my new decor" line before. Disgusting. Who exactly is letting people adopt these animals?
W.T.F.!??!!?!?!?

That is absolutely sickening. And yes - I'm all for neutering these kinds of people!!
 
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i worry more about this than an misguided "idiot" on the phone that needs someone to TELL them what to do
Trust me I worry about a lot of things. All of the above and then some. Just because I call people out for being a complete moron doesn't make me any less gratefull that A)they call B) they bring the animal to us.

There is a wide spectrum of what gets me wanting to punch people in the face. I see the absolute WORST in humanity in my job. I have done it for two years. I will not make it another.

...and tell me you're not serious about the "decor" comment.. That's rediculous. If it were me I'd tell them "Yeah well I'm sure you don't match the drapes either"
I have had a man give his cat up that he had for 9 years because the cat kept jumping on top of his NEW car.

I had a couple give up their two cats of 5 years because they shed. ( as if they all of a sudden they started losing hair.)

I have seen on more than one occasion someone give up a pet because they have fleas.

I have seen people adopt an animal only to return it a week later because they say their house is too small. ( Don't you hate it when your house shrinks?)

I understand people comments of "well at least they called." yeah I get that. However, I have every right to vent about my job just as everyone else in the free world does. I don't see any difference.
 

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Originally Posted by Breal76

I understand people comments of "well at least they called." yeah I get that. However, I have every right to vent about my job just as everyone else in the free world does. I don't see any difference.
I don't think that comment was necessarily directed at you - just a general statement.

I agree there are times you have to vent / laugh / cry at these people or you would go insane, but there are some people (and not necessarily on here, but you never know) who would pass judgement like that during the conversation and it just pushes people away.
 
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but there are some people (and not necessarily on here, but you never know) who would pass judgement like that during the conversation
Okay.. I understand that. I would never do that to the person to their face. I am a professional (which is why I always rank #1 every month on surrender donations.) . I have to talk about them though later on..It's what keeps me sane!
 

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Originally Posted by Breal76

Okay.. I understand that. I would never do that to the person to their face. I am a professional (which is why I always rank #1 every month on surrender donations.) . I have to talk about them though later on..It's what keeps me sane!
Yep, as I said, I sometimes feel the need to reach my arm down the phone and slap people (and my calls have nothing to do with the treatment of animals or people)
 

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I'd just like to add the story of a gorgeous pit here.

Long story short...she's on a 14 day quarantine for biting a young girl in the face. This is a few weeks after she bit her owner the the ump-teenth time. No one, I mean no one can enter her kennel. S he does not get to leave that kennel under any circumstances. This is basically her 3rd strike. She is deaf, scared of her own tail, & miserable. The owners are petitioning to get her back. All HS volunteers, animal control officer, & many residents of the city want her euthanized. She messes in her kennel & all we can do is spray it down the drain with a hose, which she is terrified of.

Why can't we put this dog out of it's misery? Who beat her to make her this way? How long before she bites again? I almost cry my eyes out every time I walk past her kennel. She has food/water & a blanket. No toys. You can throw a treat in, but don't get your fingers near the kennel or she'll bite them off.
 
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Long story short
Boy I almost like you to go into that long story.

If the dog is biting the owner, why is she turning the dog in? Especially if she wants the dog back.

I think that is really sad you can't move her while you clean her kennel. Don't you have control sticks? I highly reccomend them. We have had "Kujo" at our shelter, there hasn't been a dog we haven't been able to handle. Ever.

How old is this dog? Was she born deaf?
 

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Originally Posted by Breal76

I had a couple give up their two cats of 5 years because they shed. ( as if they all of a sudden they started losing hair.)
People lose hair too, do you think they'd get rid of their kids/SO over such a petty thing? I doubt it. Some people are just really dumb..
 

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Originally Posted by lionessrampant

And yeah, I've actually heard the "my pet doesn't match my new decor" line before. Disgusting. Who exactly is letting people adopt these animals?
Oh My Gosh. this really makes me freakin mad.


Originally Posted by white cat lover

I'd just like to add the story of a gorgeous pit here.

Long story short...she's on a 14 day quarantine for biting a young girl in the face. This is a few weeks after she bit her owner the the ump-teenth time. No one, I mean no one can enter her kennel. S he does not get to leave that kennel under any circumstances. This is basically her 3rd strike. She is deaf, scared of her own tail, & miserable. The owners are petitioning to get her back. All HS volunteers, animal control officer, & many residents of the city want her euthanized. She messes in her kennel & all we can do is spray it down the drain with a hose, which she is terrified of.

Why can't we put this dog out of it's misery? Who beat her to make her this way? How long before she bites again? I almost cry my eyes out every time I walk past her kennel. She has food/water & a blanket. No toys. You can throw a treat in, but don't get your fingers near the kennel or she'll bite them off.
this is so sad! i wonder how she got like this...and WHO got her like this...
 

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Originally Posted by Breal76

Boy I almost like you to go into that long story.

If the dog is biting the owner, why is she turning the dog in? Especially if she wants the dog back.

I think that is really sad you can't move her while you clean her kennel. Don't you have control sticks? I highly reccomend them. We have had "Kujo" at our shelter, there hasn't been a dog we haven't been able to handle. Ever.

How old is this dog? Was she born deaf?
The dog was turned in by the mother of the young girl that was bitten in the face. The owners didn't tell us that this dog bit them until after she bit the young girl. We have rabies poles, but this dog is not trustworthy enough to even take out on those. The animal control officer will prosecute anyone who opens that kennel door & they will be banned from the Humane Society premises. Most of the "rules" surrounding this dog are his rules, & we have to abide by them. She's an adult & the deafness is a result of being beaten/used as a bait dog.


If you walk past her kennel, she lashes out. The owners saw her do that, laughed, & said "now you know what she's like at home". Apparently her lashing out at them is a common occurance.
 

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Originally Posted by Mirinae

That's pretty much it. In my customer service experience, you never let the customer know you think they're a moron, and you do your very best to work through their problem. But afterwards, if their problem was something like them not plugging in their computer in the first place, or leaving on the cat's collar when they tried to give it to the Humane Society as a found "stray," yeah, you gotta laugh about it. (Or cry. Or scream in anger.)

I think the majority of the people you deal with while working in animal shelters are well-meaning, good-intentioned folks who have fallen on hard times, or who have found themselves in over their heads, and who genuinely need help and intend to do their best by their pets or by the animals they've found. It's the ones who aren't -- the ones who surrender their pets because they don't match the decor, or the ones who claim their cats are actually strays to avoid paying a $50 surrendering fee (when they can well afford that price), or who blame the shelter workers for something that's their own damn fault -- that get absolutely no sympathy from me. If, after dealing with these kinds of people, shelter workers feel the need to vent or laugh it off, I can completely understand where they're coming from.


Obviously, I'm not going to look down my nose at people. I am, after all, pretty capable of being caring, reasonable, diplomatic, gentle and helpful for most of the day, but there's that moment you get home (or onto the computer) and you just need to let it all out. Of course if someone's declawed cat is peeing on the carpet, the FIRST thing we do is tell them to get the cat to a vet if they haven't already. If they have, for example, THEN we disclose that it's a common side effect of declawing that can often be solved by using a softer litter. This way, they get a solution, but maybe they'll also think twice about having their cats declawed. We can't blame the people who don't know the truth about the surgery...but we CAN educate them so they never do it again. There have been a handful of people who are essentially like "Ok, declawing hurts the cat. So what? They'll get over it. And if they pee on the couch, we can just have it put down and get a new one". Yes, I've heard that. You can't tell me these are people who are just begging for me to educate them. They're begging for a fight, or a challenge, or to just be jerks or something. So we just politely decline them and send them to one of the municpal shelters and hope against hope that the poor cat doesn't have any nasty side-effects.

And yes, totally serious. The lady who wanted to surrender the cat because of the decor didn't want an "animal print" theme anymore, and so the black cat wouldn't match but she "didn't want to see the poor thing get killed" so could we take it? Seriously. I didn't know it was possible to be that stupid, but evidently it is.
 
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She's an adult & the deafness is a result of being beaten/used as a bait dog.
That's so sad. I hate it when you see those. We get pits in all the time from these situations. It's just aweful. They are not supposed to be like that.

We had a dog on investigative hold for 6 months. I just can't believe the owner was doing this to their dog. It was an extremely vicious animal. Of course when county won their case and the hold was lifted. That poor dog who didn't see daylight for that entire time. Well, one of the workers showed up early in the morning with another worker. They got a control stick and gave that dog his last walk outside.

When people fight AC like that is has absolutely nothing to do with the animal. They just like picking a fight.
 
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