Originally Posted by valanhb
The thing with this thread is that I feel like points are being ignored if the post isn't in total agreement.
No one has said that the climate is not changing. Or that the climate is not getting warming.
No one has said that we shouldn't work to clean up the environment.
The argument is about the cause of "global warming". I read through the thread again last night, and I didn't see anyone saying that humans are not contributing to it. Or that we're not damaging the planet. We are. No one is denying that. But what we are saying is that humans are not the sole cause of this climate change, and there is not indisputable proof that we are.
I also want to say this: This is a political issue. Al Gore does have an agenda. Statistics and graphs can be viewed to say whatever it is you want them to say. And if this movie doesn't present the other side, it is biased and a skewed perspective. Maybe that's the facts that you want to hear, but it is not the only set of facts and theories out there.
I thought so too before I saw it. I was surprised and gratified at his genuine warmth and care. Al Gore has been studying climate change long
before he got into politics, which is interesting in itself. I'm not going to be naive and say there isn't an agenda in the film - of course there is, to help save the planet. Fine by me.
And it does
present the other side, absolutely. That's why it's such an important film.
|Well, I am not going to see any "one sided" political agenda movie. That doesn't prove anything.
That's a little one-sided, isn't it?
Nobody has been able to `prove' anything yet - even your arguments. So, the proof question is a little redundant. I don't know why everyone wants such conclusive proof. There are very, very compelling arguments clearly delineated and based on a great deal of research, and until you have examined both
sides you should reserve judgement. I have, therefore I know which side has more compelling evidence to me. Those of who refuse to entertain that humans are the predominant cause of this do not have credibility until you have examined both sides either. Many of you have, many of you haven't.
I find it a little odd that you can decide so much about a film you haven't seen, and decide without seeing it that it's all propaganda. That's the same as me saying, `I really hate Twinkies' - but I've never had one. Could that be because it's presenting the views you don't want to examine? I bet if there was a film out there about natural global warming and how humans haven't contributed to it much, you'd see that. So until you've seen it and compared it with what you already think, I really don't think that you're in a position to comment on it.
And to answer the question `Am I doing anything'. You're darn right I am. I cycle to work most days, we only have one car, we are both vegetarian (mostly for ethical issues - including climate change), we walk or use public transport where possible. We don't tip cooking oil down the sink but dispose of it in an environmentally friendly way, we don't buy lots of iddy bitty tins of cat/dog food, because of it's contribution to landfill - or any other pointless packaging, for that matter. We use our electricity and gas under the eco-guidelines of our providers, we recycle everything possible, we don't use plastic bags at the supermarket...the list goes on.
And most important of all, we educate ourselves every day on what we can do and how we can change more
, we research and argue and look into things - so we can be fully informed of both sides, and make our decisions based on the information available. Yes, I'd say we do our bit.