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Colorado Governor "disses" PETA

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http://www.consumerfreedom.com/news_.../headline/3212
post #2 of 29
Good for him! PETA would rather see the animals starve to death?
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I agree with both sides.

While I do see why PETA didn't help (since some of the herds, maybe all, will be slaughtered in 6-9 months.

However what about the animal shelters or other areas of CO that needed a helping hand? Did PETA lift a finger for them? Nope.

Personally I don't support PETA. They have too many radical sects and until they start to dissassociate themselves from the radical sects I won't support them.
post #4 of 29
this is typical of many organizations who claim to champion a certain cause, but then only act when a situation arises that follows their political or personal leanings.....Im not surprised
post #5 of 29
I KNEW I liked Bill Owens for a reason!

Regardless of what you think about the beef industry, dying by starvation, dehydration and freezing to death are not good ways to die. These are obviously "free range" cattle. This isn't about some mega-corp feed lot where the cattle can't even move. These are also breeding stock, for the most part. So the odds of them all being shipped out to slaughter isn't very good. These are the family farms and ranches that we should be supporting. They have said on the news that last time a crisis like this happened, over 30,000 head of cattle died. If the cattle aren't saved, it will be a $2-3 BILLION loss to these people (based not just on market value, but since this is the breeding stock, the future of their business is at stake too). Where is the help for these animals? Thus far, from the state and National Guard, as ordered by the Governor.
post #6 of 29
I have a long list of reasons why I don't support PETA (Penn and Teller did a show on them for their series Bull****! and it was quite an eye-opener). Although I can sort of see their viewpoint that it seems silly to rescue animals that are only going to be slaughtered anyway (and the slaughter of these animals goes against PETA's ethics), at the same time, as has already been pointed out, dying in a blizzard is a hell of a worse way to go than being killed humanely.
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Peta stinks. these animals freezing and starvign to death is worse than anything else.

And as another poster said most of these animals are breeding stock.
post #8 of 29
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Originally Posted by Mirinae View Post
I have a long list of reasons why I don't support PETA (Penn and Teller did a show on them for their series Bull****! and it was quite an eye-opener). Although I can sort of see their viewpoint that it seems silly to rescue animals that are only going to be slaughtered anyway (and the slaughter of these animals goes against PETA's ethics), at the same time, as has already been pointed out, dying in a blizzard is a hell of a worse way to go than being killed humanely.
I have that Penn and Teller episode bookmarked on my computer. While I will not donate to PETA and while disagree with many of their tactics and views. Some things I do agree with. But this is not one of them.
post #9 of 29
I agree with the governor, PETA started out well and now they are just a tool to use to push an agenda. They are hepocrits and I have found documented cases of some of their higher ups supporting breed bans on pit bulls and other dogs. And they have done more harm to animals than good. One of their main people said that pit bulls should be exterminated.
post #10 of 29
Good for him!!
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Do I honestly need yet another reason to dislike PETA there's nothing ethical about leaving hundreds of animals out in the snow to die and an organization that claims to care about them does nothing! That really angers me!
post #12 of 29
Woohooo! That guy rocks!

I've always hated PETA. They are out of their :censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor::censor: minds. They're against people keeping pets. PETS!
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I still can't believe how many pet owners give them money, when one of their primary objective in liberating animals is to ban pet ownership.
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Originally Posted by Sims2fan View Post
I still can't believe how many pet owners give them money, when one of their primary objective in liberating animals is to ban pet ownership.
A lot of people aren't aware of that, though, and know them primarily as a group that wants to stop the use of fur in fashion.
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I still can't believe how many pet owners give them money, when one of their primary objective in liberating animals is to ban pet ownership.
Wow I didn't realise that. All I know that in general they are a bunch of weirdos.

Hmmm...so if we gave up owning pets per PETA, then we would probably have wild dog and wild cat hunting seasons. Did they ever think about that?
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A lot of people aren't aware of that, though, and know them primarily as a group that wants to stop the use of fur in fashion.
I never will understand how anyone supports a group who scares other people into agreeing with them. That is terrorism. And assault.

Also, how does ruining people's fur coats so that they have to buy a new one achieve anything?

They give vegetarians a bad name, sometimes when you're out in rural midwestern places and people find out you don't eat meat they somehow assume you're going to throw blood on them (because the only other vegetarians they've heard of are PeTA).
post #17 of 29
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I never will understand how anyone supports a group who scares other people into agreeing with them. That is terrorism. And assault.

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Currently the FBI is the only government sector that considers PETA a single-issue terrorist organization. I was a little surprised when I learned this, but it makes sense.

I.e. if they break into a lab full of monkeys that were injected with the aids virus that scientists were using for testing a cure, and set the monkeys free...well you just caused a epidemic right there.

Roaming malls with spray paint to spray on people wearing fur coats. OK, what happens if someone has an allergic reaction to the spray paint? Or you spray someone in the eyes unintentionally?

Examples like this are just plain ignorance...
post #18 of 29
There are so many things wrong with PETA on so many levels that it makes me sad, because such a large organisation could use their profile to actually HELP animals. They are so extremist that they have caused lost credibility for animal rights activists and welfare advocates everywhere.

PETA infamously had an advertising campaign called, `Your Daddy kills animals' with a photo of a man gutting a fish, that targeted children with the statement "Since your daddy is teaching you the wrong lessons about right and wrong, you should teach him fishing is killing. Until your daddy learns it's not fun to kill, keep your doggies and kitties away from him. He's so hooked on killing defenseless animals, they could be next."

Sorry, but any organisation that would stoop to that kind of propagandist outrage is not worthy of the attention they get, or the money donated to them.
post #19 of 29
Wow. It is about time that someone with some power stands up against this organization. I really wish more people would come to realize how overly extreme this group is. I am not a fan of PETA at all, and I personally have never seen them do anything impressive, except how to fool millions of people into giving them money, just so they can keep expanding.

I will never forget one of their "ideas" that disturbes me the most. Basically, they believe that a rat's life has the value as a child's life. Now, I love rats, they are wonderful animals (I am an RVT so I love animals and am always concerned about their welfare), however, I have 2 children and in no way do rats even compare to them.

I will be honest, I did work in a large biomedical research facility for some time, and although it was unlikely, the thought of those extremists doing something terrible to that place was always in the back of my mind, ecspecially when I would go in at 6:30am and see an odd vehicle in the parking lot. Creepy.
post #20 of 29
http://petakillsanimals.com/

From July 1998 through the end of 2005, PETA killed over 14,400 dogs, cats, and other "companion animals" -- at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. That's more than five defenseless animals every day. Not counting the dogs and cats PETA spayed and neutered, the group put to death over 90 percent of the animals it took in during 2005 alone. And its angel-of-death pattern shows no sign of changing.
post #21 of 29
That thought alone just makes me sick.
post #22 of 29
Way to go governor About time we stick it to the PETA terrorists.
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Originally Posted by lunasmom View Post
Roaming malls with spray paint to spray on people wearing fur coats. OK, what happens if someone has an allergic reaction to the spray paint? Or you spray someone in the eyes unintentionally?

Examples like this are just plain ignorance...

And this is one of the things that bothers me to know end about them. I personally do not wear fur but I do have some things that are made of fake or faux furs and alot of times you can't tell the difference if you don't really look very hard at it and even then its very hard to do.

And they will attack people with their cans of paint and some of these people have faux furs on and so in that they are defeating their purpose.

I personally think PETA is just a tool to get money and its run by a bunch of lunitics.
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I.e. if they break into a lab full of monkeys that were injected with the aids virus that scientists were using for testing a cure, and set the monkeys free...well you just caused a epidemic right there.
Wasn't that a movie starring Brad Pitt???

PETA is an organization full of idealistic A-h****!

I have no respect for them at all. Do we happen to agree on a rare few issues? Probably, but it has nothing to do with them or their 'cause'.
post #25 of 29
There have been at least two movies involving AR people setting monkey's free- 12 Monkeys with Brad Pitt and 28 Days Later. Mega plague, or zombie plague- neither sound fun to me. Although they do make for fun movies!

I had no idea that Peta is against pet adoption until someone on this board educated me (or should I say "schooled" me ) They are pretty scary. That whole fiasco with killing adoptable cats and dogs and dumping them in a Piggly Wiggly dumpster did it for me.
post #26 of 29
While we are talking about PETA here, let's not forget that there are other AR groups who are just as bad. Humane Society of the United States HSUS, Animal Protection Institute API, Animal Liberation Front ALF, Earth Liberation Front ELF and there are others as well. I must mention, please do not confuse HSUS with your LOCAL humane society. They are NOT the same thing and most local shelters receive no help from HSUS. Supporting your local humane shelters does not support HSUS. Since I share my life with exotic cats, I know first hand what these AR groups are up to. There mission, is to stop ALL human interaction with ALL animals. This includes domestics. They have been attacking exotic animal owners first, because it is so much easier to spread lies about these types of animals and our useless media helps these groups out any chance they get. Since most people do not understand exotic animal ownership, they believe these lies. But trust me when I say this. They are not out just to get us exotic animal owners, these AR groups are out to get ALL animal owners Many people have heard of ANIMAL WELFARE and ANIMAL RIGHTS. The difference can be explained very easy. Animal Welfare=RESPONSIBLE use and Animal Rights=NO use and this means no pets as well!!
post #27 of 29
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Originally Posted by AmberThe Bobcat View Post
I must mention, please do not confuse HSUS with your LOCAL humane society. They are NOT the same thing and most local shelters receive no help from HSUS. Supporting your local humane shelters does not support HSUS.
I'm glad you posted this, because I was honestly starting to think they were the same organization and it worried me because I do support my local Humane Society but dislike most AR groups (for the very reasons we've all be discussing in this thread). Thanks for the clarification!
post #28 of 29
My gripe with PETA started with their stance on breed specific legislation. PETA has left ALL dog owners out in the cold. It starts with "Pit Bulls" (however you define them) and progresses to any dog that somebody thinks might be a "Pit Bull"

"*Pit bull is NOT a breed. It's a generic term often used to describe all dogs with similar traits and characteristics often known by the public as "pit bulls".' from http://www.pbrc.net/breedinfo.html

and then to Rotties, German Shepherds, Akitas, poorly bred Labs etc.

But then you have these results of FBI investigations indicating among other things that they recuit interns from Aisa to do their dirty work:
http://www.animalscam.com/references/peta_fbi1.cfm

And I think with this kind of thing
http://www.peta.org/feat/petatomato/
they are making a deliberate appeal to the worst in kids who tend to want to do bad things like spray graffitti, throw rotten tomatoes, commit petty arson etc. If you do it in the name of a WORTHY CAUSE like PETA, then all this crap suddenly becomes OK.

I think they are hypocrites and need to be taken out. And any fool "celebrity" who supports them loses my respect. Except of course for bimbos like Pamela Anderson, who did not have any in the first place to lose.
post #29 of 29
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom View Post
And any fool "celebrity" who supports them loses my respect.
I can't agree more!! I just want to shake them and find out what they are thinking!!
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