Would you eat cloned meat?

I guess, but if they put a label on it, i would not buy it.
lol but why would they clone a cow?

Nope.

i am extremely picky about what I put in my body. I am a firm believer that we've spent too much time messing around with mother nature. We've ruined our soils, depleted vitamins and minerals from vegetation, caused undue suffering to our food animals, processed the heck out of everything in order to appeal to modern day taste buds that have been overloaded with sugar since birth... and where did it get us? Most diseases are on ther rise with drug companies fighting to find cures or ways to control them. We fill ourselves full of synthetic substances to cure everything from cancer to the sniffles. And while we may be living longer, our quality of life appears to be diminishing. When is the last time you heard someone say "Wow, I feel GREAT today?" As a society we suffer from so many ails it's absolutely unreal.

And I used to be one of them. I always had something wrong with me. My energy was rock bottom.. I could catch a cold without even trying.. my weight was out of control... I had back problems and knee problems... and I'm only 26!

So I changed my diet. No processed food. No sugar. No bread. No flour. I eat grass fed, antibiotic and steroid free meat that comes from a small organic farm nearby. I eat heirloom veggies (of which I also plan to start a backyard garden, but just moved here so havent had the time yet) and organic spices. I use first cold pressed olive oil or coconut oil. You won't find me anywhere near soy. I use the addage that I heard once: "If I were naked in the woods with only a pointy stick, would I be able to eat this?" I don't count calories. I don't bother with that low fat nonsense... the only people I have seen stick to a low fat diet over the long term are sicker than when they started... one is now a type 2 diabetic, one is on cholesterol meds that have a possible side effect of cancer, and a third is a 32 year old who developed Syndrome X.

And the results have been amazing. My cholesterol is great. My energy level is through the roof. I've lost almost 30lbs and my BF lost over 100. And while yes, I do have a cold today, this is the first illness I've had since the first week of August 2004! And I didn't get it nearly as bad... and suspect it will be gone within a day or so. Oh, and no back or knee problems anymore.

So no, I will not be buying cloned meat. If a laboratory has anything to do with any food, I will not eat it. Personally, I'd rather keep my money to myself than spend it putting my doctor's children through college.

And I'll get off my soapbox now.

No you can stay right on your soapbox. I applaud you for that fantastic post.

Most turkeys are produced by a method of cloning (the female ova can be induced to divide and grow without the intervention of male sperm) and have been for years

Ew. Makes me glad I don't like turkey

This topic was raised on a local news show this morning as J was driving me to work, and one of the co-hosts raised a good point: that it would depend, for him, on what animal they were cloning it from. For example, I think I would be willing to eat a cow cloned from a regular, healthy cow, but I'm not so sure I'd be willing to eat a cow cloned from a cow that had been fed a ton of growth hormones and given a bunch of other freaky chemicals. By that same token, though, if I eat a cow that was born from a cow who had been given growth hormones etc., how different is that from the cloned one? (Aside from the fact that the cloned cow would be 100% genetically like the original, whereas the naturally born one would be only 50% or so, but would be getting the other 50% from its equally hormone-and-chemical-pumped father.) I know we have a bunch of science geeks (I say it with love: I'm a geek, too, in my own fields) on TCS, so I'd love to hear their input because science is so not my forte!

I'm with you on this one. There is a difference between genetically altered and cloned, and I'd rather eat the cloned cow than one that has had its DNA messed with. Cloning is duplication - based on food shortages worldwide, and the fact that we are faced with an ever expanding population and a decreasing set of natural resources, I see nothing wrong with cloning of animals as an additional food source, provided that they are cloned from healthy animals and are not genetically altered.

I eat very little meat anymore, but if I did....probably not. I'm one of those people that attitude greatly effects how much I enjoy food. I've never been able to eat soy substitutes for meats...they are probably good if prepared right, and are good for you...but the IDEA of it being soy makes me feel a tad ill. So just thinking that hamburger may be from cloned beef would probably make me have that "ewww" feeling.

Ok, so...maybe I'm a wee bit odd

If you noticed, it said they probably won't be labeled. What you are buying in a regular supermarket is NEVER from a healthy, steroid-free, hormone/antibiotic-free, grass-fed, not genetically-altered cow. That's a fairytale. The things that have happened to the animals and the meat that isn't labeled as anything special at your local grocery would probably make you puke. So, if you aren't buying at least organic meat then there isn't any difference between the horribleness of what's already on the shelf and the horribleness cloned and sitting right next to it, unlabeled.

Anyway, no I won't be eating it, as I don't eat any meat ever.

i guess if they don't label it then I will never know if I am eating it or not. The cost of beef is going to go through the roof. Did you see the cost difference in cloning and regular birth of a cow? $15,000 for the cloned cow. Unless it gets a heck of a lot cheaper I don't see it happening any time soon.

They also came out with a story a few months ago about how they were treating meat with carbon monoxide to keep it "pink and pretty".
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021901101.html

But on the other hand, they were saying on CNN this morning about how people were in an uproar about this... so I'm wondering if there will be a push to get these meats labeled. We won the trans fat labeling battle (to a certain extent..) ... might just win this one too. Of course, theyre also trying to get the carbon monoxide meat labeled too... so who knows.

I thought coconut oil was full of unhealthy monounsaturated fat?

And why no soy?

this is all just too weird for me!!!

I think this may well be a step in the right direction to solving the ever present burden of world hunger. I would also hope that the people involved in the cloning would select the most healthy, genetically superior cows they have access to for their process.

I would eat it. I like meat, the rarer the better! And I used to be a 'vegetarian' until I realized that all those nasty tofu burgers were just overprocessed garbage with high salt and carb content. Eating meat is 100% natural to our species. Eating overprocessed, chemically treated foods (for both vegans and meat-eaters) is not. I don't buy organic products, mostly because I think its an overmarketed fad and also because its rediculously expensive and most importantly because I grow the veggies that I like in my back yard. You wouldn't believe how fat executives pockets have gotten over this new organic trend! And just because something is labeled as organic doesn't mean its pesticide free.

Some food for thought:

http://www.annieappleseedproject.org/revofstudono.html

http://industries.bnet.com/whitepape...s&docid=106224

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organic....22sold_out.22

This is what I could get to on my computer at the moment, but if you google +"coconut oil" +benefits youll find a lot more information


"The following nutrient-rich traditional fats have nourished healthy population groups for thousands of years:

Butter
Beef and lamb tallow
Lard
Chicken, goose and duck fat
Coconut, palm and sesame oils
Cold pressed olive oil
Cold pressed flax oil
Marine oils

The following new-fangled fats can cause cancer, heart disease, immune system dysfunction, sterility, learning disabilities, growth problems and osteoporosis:

All hydrogenated oils
Soy, corn and safflower oils
Cottonseed oil
Canola oil
All fats heated to very high temperatures in processing and frying "

"Coconut oil is 92% saturated with over two-thirds of the saturated fat in the form of medium-chain fatty acids (often called medium-chain triglycerides). Of particular interest is lauric acid, found in large quantities in both coconut oil and in mother's milk. This fatty acid has strong antifungal and antimicrobial properties. Coconut oil protects tropical populations from bacteria and fungus so prevalent in their food supply; as third-world nations in tropical areas have switched to polyunsaturated vegetable oils, the incidence of intestinal disorders and immune deficiency diseases has increased dramatically. Because coconut oil contains lauric acid, it is often used in baby formulas."

"The saturated fat scare has forced manufacturers to abandon these safe and healthy oils in favor of hydrogenated soybean, corn, canola and cottonseed oils. "

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/index.html

http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyour...ml#composition

http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/24/coconut_oil.htm

http://www.coconut-info.com/coconut_...od_for_you.htm




http://www.coconut-info.com/shadow_of_soy.htm

http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html (this one has a lot of info on it)

Might want to check out this book as well http://www.thewholesoystory.com/

There will always be propaganda, and those who wish to make money from people will always publish books that are contraversial.

I don't believe everything I read - I'd be the bigger fool for it.

Aw shucks you guys Glad to help

Hey muttigreemom! They left out my favorite fatty fruit! AGUACATES!

Mmmmm! One of my favorites too! Also a good source of potassium

And thank goodness for that, 'cause I really don't like bananas! I do, however, LOVE banana chips and they're dried in coconut oil to boot!

Beautifuly written...

I do eat soy but it is organic and only the milk is shipped in( only till my vet gives me the recipe to make it myself) .... I eat sprouted grain bread...

My wt is great but everything else is getting better... I just started eating off the oriental medicine chart with my animals( whom were doing better than me )....

Gotta love coconut oil... works wonders

Yeah, roughly as often as I eat not-cloned meat

For you we would ask would you eat a cloned veggie

I'm not a beef eater, however I don't see what the difference would be if the meat came from a cloned cow or a non cloned cow. If the cloned cow was raised on healthy food, and wasn't given steriods why would it be any worse?

I do not see why we need to clone cows. And I believe someone already mentioned the cost aspect. I guess I'd eat it if it was the same price.

http://www.organicconsumers.org/2006/article_3668.cfm

And even Dolly the cloned sheep died prematurely... even showed signs of old age at a young age...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2764039.stm

And they haven't posted the transcript yet, but I'm watching for it... on CNN this morning the head veterinarian from the (FDA? CDC? I can't remember... but it'll be on the transcript) said that these cloned babies are born more fraglie and require extra care than an animal born by normal methods. (His words, not mine. I wrote it down as he was saying it)

Originally I was going to say 'Of course I would!' I mean I unfortunately eat meat full of steroids and antibiotics and what not, so what difference would it make to eat a clone? But now that im reading up on more things, especially the cost I say heck no.

If these clones are going to be more prone to certain conditions and diseases there is no point in creating them. Also the cost of cloning one is almost 8X's higher than natural birthing. I do not want the price of my meats to go up, and they will inevitably go up.

As it is, meats are at ridiculously high prices. Which is why Im glad I have the advantage of living in Puerto Rico. My grandmothers raise their own chickens and there is always fresh, organic chicken and eggs available. My step-grandfather has cows and my sons uncle raises pig. Quite a few times a year I am saved from buying supermarket meats and im able to enjoy a plate of hormone free meat.