Originally Posted by theimp98
people like you make me sick. you have soooooo little understanding of world events or history. Please pack your bags move to germany during 1940's and put a star on. or move to post war russia. Then maybe you would really understand.but until then,Go learn.
You can agree or disagree with the war that is fine. you can like bush or not. I am not a fan of bush but statements like that are about as crazy as saying all muslims are evil. People seem to think war is pretty, its not. People die. Men, women, kids. Its just the way it is. But i dont see people being forced into gas showers to die. Oh wait i bet you even think that did not happen right?
Wow, is that ever insulting, on so many levels. Who has ever
said that war is "pretty?" And no, you haven't seen people forced into gas showers to die in this war.
Instead, you've seen people locked away in jails where they have no rights and where they haven't even had a trial. You've seen a country divided against itself over where its leadership is headed. You've seen the Powers That Be wire-tapping civilians because they might
have terrorist leanings. Atrocities happen all over the place and in a variety of ways. It's ridiculous to assume that none of us are aware of what happened in previous wars -- some of us have lived through other wars, some of us have had family members fight in said wars, and some of us have lost loved ones because of said wars. It's also ridiculous to assume that we don't know what's happening in this
war, or to try to pretend that what's happening now isn't also atrocious. I would argue that pretty much every single person who posts in the IMO forum is keenly -- perhaps even painfully -- aware of world events. Just because we don't all view these events in the same light doesn't mean our knowledge or comprehension is any less valuable.
I also can't help but notice that when someone gives a disparaging view of President Bush, or the war in Iraq, or the US's current policies, they're told to pack their bags and move to another country. "Land of the free" indeed. (I realize that TheImp's comment was more along the lines of "You should learn what it was like during other wars" rather than "Get the heck outta the US, you traitorous scum!" but I've heard the "like it or leave" comment often enough to bristle every time it comes up.)
As to the original topic ... Yes, I think they might very well hang Hussein, and to be honest, I feel very conflicted about it. It's not that I don't think he's innocent or undeserving -- although I am personally opposed to the death penalty, I'm enough of a hypocrite to make an exception in his case. However, I believe his death would be extremely risky. He becomes a martyr, his followers will have all the more reason to act violently (as if they didn't believe themselves to have enough reason to begin with!), and there is still the matter of his second trial to consider. Would the victims of the crimes addressed in his second trial feel cheated of their justice -- because they will never have a chance to have their own wrongs addressed -- or would they feel that the first trial was enough? (Sort of like how, if a serial killer dies in prison before coming to trial, in many cases his victims don't feel closure because they were "cheated" of his death.) So, I don't know how to feel, because it goes against my personal beliefs to be supportive of his death, and yet ... I am.