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post #1 of 28
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Ok..Ok....maybe it seems stupid i am am seeing it all over and today alone have already gotten three emails with this in it..


"would you sale this?"

ARGH..correc me if i am wrong but isnt the proper term SELL??

post #2 of 28
Just e-mail back "I dunno, are you speak English?"
post #3 of 28
I subscribe to two freecycle groups and I am apalled at the lack of grammer/spelling in many posts.
post #4 of 28
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Just e-mail back "I dunno, are you speak English?"
post #5 of 28
Thread Starter 
lol well i finally had enough and emailed them back saying i wont sale anything, but i do SELL. probably cost me the sale but i am so peeved i dun care, LOL..
post #6 of 28
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms View Post
lol well i finally had enough and emailed them back saying i wont sale anything, but i do SELL. probably cost me the sale but i am so peeved i dun care, LOL..
I DUN know about everyone else but I wouldn't care either
post #7 of 28
Thread Starter 
lol i did that on purpose

But i don't care much about it. I know i am far from the most accurate grammar wise person in the world. but..come on
post #8 of 28
My personal grammar peeve is when people AXE a question instead of ASK it.

So I know what you mean! Sometimes they (the errors) just rub you the wrong way!
post #9 of 28
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
My personal grammar peeve is when people AXE a question instead of ASK it.

So I know what you mean! Sometimes they (the errors) just rub you the wrong way!
Mine is punctuation. I understand that people will make typos, and I'm pretty patient with bad spelling, but bad punctuation just drives me insane. I'm not talking about the obscure or complicated parts but rather use of more than one exclaimation point or question mark - it's weird, I know, but I just feel more than one is redundant. I do understand that it's mostly for emphasis but I really do sometimes feel like shouting, "don't you understand what it's for?"

See, one question mark, and I got my point across just fine.
post #10 of 28
I must admit I am one of the multiple exclamation point users out there. I will try to curb that habit while on this thread though

I can understand a few typos here and there and I can also understand some bad punctuation, but when you are trying to read a post or have a conversation over IM and it is a constant problem... that's when it starts to annoy me!
post #11 of 28
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Originally Posted by kiki_585 View Post
I must admit I am one of the multiple exclamation point users out there. I will try to curb that habit while on this thread though


Thank you, that's very sweet! Don't worry, I do realise that I'm in the minority.
post #12 of 28
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
My personal grammar peeve is when people AXE a question instead of ASK it.

So I know what you mean! Sometimes they (the errors) just rub you the wrong way!
That, actually, is the original pronunciation of it. The aks v ask thing has been going on since the word began to be used. It's not an error, its a variation of which one form has been stigmatized because it happens to be used by people with lower socioeconomic status.

I also am a multiple punctuation user. I also use this ?!?! mark, which drives the languages mavens up a wall.

I personally love stuff like the usage of a noun as a verb. It's fascinating. And most of the things people have pet peeves about are absolutely vital to our language. Would anyone even bat an eye at "Would you mail that to me?" People used to freak out about the usage of "mail" as a verb too.

This is a situation up with which I will not put! (said by Winston Churchill after being scolded by a prescriptivist for ending a sentence with a preposition, another of these "rules" that make no sense, often based on latin and with no grounding in English).
post #13 of 28
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms View Post
lol well i finally had enough and emailed them back saying i wont sale anything, but i do SELL. probably cost me the sale but i am so peeved i dun care, LOL..
Unfortunately, by doing this you have told them that your e-mail address is 'live' and working and you will probably be bombarded by junk e-mail because they will sell your e-mail address on to other spammers

If you get junk mail do not ever reply to it - report it to your e-mail provider, and to the e-mail provider or ISP of the sender.
post #14 of 28
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Originally Posted by Epona View Post
Unfortunately, by doing this you have told them that your e-mail address is 'live' and working and you will probably be bombarded by junk e-mail because they will sell your e-mail address on to other spammers

If you get junk mail do not ever reply to it - report it to your e-mail provider, and to the e-mail provider or ISP of the sender.
it was not junkmail it was business related
post #15 of 28
This one continues to annoy me.


Eeeeek! "You've got mail."
post #16 of 28
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Originally Posted by ScamperFarms View Post
it was not junkmail it was business related
Oh cool, sorry, I misunderstood! The hazards of having to wade through a billion or so spam e-mails at work every day, most of them trying to 'sale' me things
post #17 of 28
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Just e-mail back "I dunno, are you speak English?"


post #18 of 28
Spelling is my pet peeve, at least the continuous misspelling of a word even after others have spelled it right typos, i can understand, not everyone is the best typer and I'm sure no one besides me rereads their posts three times before replying to make sure there are no spelling errors

ETA: I am also a mulitple punctuation mark abuser
post #19 of 28
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
That, actually, is the original pronunciation of it. The aks v ask thing has been going on since the word began to be used. It's not an error, its a variation of which one form has been stigmatized because it happens to be used by people with lower socioeconomic status.
Would you mind very much sharing with me the source of this information? I have a communications degree, have taken more than my share of English and writing classes, have extensive theater experience where proper enunciation was always stressed, and nowhere before have I ever heard that AKS is the original pronounciation of the word ASK.
post #20 of 28
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I also am a multiple punctuation user. I also use this ?!?! mark, which drives the languages mavens up a wall.
As you point out in your post, language is not static. ?! is largely accepted now, as the interbang, at least here. Its function, if something visual could possibly be so described, is onomatopoeiac (confused query or a sort of polite :censor::censor::censor:?). Still, one would be quite enough.
post #21 of 28
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Originally Posted by Satai View Post
Mine is punctuation. I understand that people will make typos, and I'm pretty patient with bad spelling, but bad punctuation just drives me insane. I'm not talking about the obscure or complicated parts but rather use of more than one exclaimation point or question mark - it's weird, I know, but I just feel more than one is redundant. I do understand that it's mostly for emphasis but I really do sometimes feel like shouting, "don't you understand what it's for?"

See, one question mark, and I got my point across just fine.
OMG I am SOOOO guilty of this!!! I always use 3 !!!'s....I just feel that it better conveys my thorough excitement!!! Where one seems to me to be angry or yelling. Crazy huh? Just ignore my posts then.... cause I don't think I can stop!!!
(do they have support groups for this kind of multiple punctuation addiction?!)
post #22 of 28
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Would you mind very much sharing with me the source of this information? I have a communications degree, have taken more than my share of English and writing classes, have extensive theater experience where proper enunciation was always stressed, and nowhere before have I ever heard that AKS is the original pronounciation of the word ASK.
Caedmon, for one, spelled it "acsian" around 1000. Chaucer, in the prologue to the tale of the Wife of Bath, used "axe" in 1386. Wycliffe's bible around the same time used "axide" or "axe" as well. In 1803, a man who wrote "Anecdotes of the English Language" wrote: "A true born Londoner, Sir, of either sex, always axes question, axes pardon, and at quadrille axes leave" (I assume this is out of copyright, yes?) (citation from the OED... but not quoted or paraphrased)

Up until the regularization of spelling, which in many cases followed the rules of Latin or simply fancy, the "ask" or "aks" were just as acceptable. And in Old English, it was always "acs-" and never "asc", which would have been pronounced "ash" anyway. It became ask in some dialects through metathesis, one of them being the dialect around London that our own modern English happened to evolve from, mostly because it was spoken by people with the most power.

But the spoken form "aks" never died the way the spelling did. When someone says "aks" they just speak a different dialect than you, they aren't wrong. Anything that naturally occurs in anyone's speech isn't wrong, to a linguist. It just isn't Standard English. Most of the things we view as errors or mistakes aren't. They're just differences, and differences that are characteristic of the speech of people who are not those in socioeconomic power. For instance, if you don't say your r's in some parts of the south, you are viewed as refined and wealthy. But if you don't say them in Brooklyn, you're immediately labeled as lower-class.

This isn't communications, it's linguistics: the two fields often oppose one another. Communications and theatre, I imagine, would teach you very well how to speak and write in the most prestigious forms of modern English. That's far from the point of linguistics.
post #23 of 28
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OMG I am SOOOO guilty of this!!! I always use 3 !!!'s....I just feel that it better conveys my thorough excitement!!! Where one seems to me to be angry or yelling. Crazy huh? Just ignore my posts then.... cause I don't think I can stop!!!
(do they have support groups for this kind of multiple punctuation addiction?!)
Probably only at my house.
post #24 of 28
Wow, Zissou's Mom, consider me edumacated!!! Thanks for the info!

(Yes, I know, I'm guilty of the multiple punctuation myself. )
post #25 of 28
The one that drives me over the edge is when people say..."Do you have an IDEAL what would cause that?"

Dear God the word is IDEA leave the "L" off!
post #26 of 28
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Originally Posted by Zissou'sMom View Post
I also am a multiple punctuation user. I also use this ?!?! mark, which drives the languages mavens up a wall.
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Originally Posted by LuckyGirl View Post
OMG I am SOOOO guilty of this!!! I always use 3 !!!'s....I just feel that it better conveys my thorough excitement!!! Where one seems to me to be angry or yelling. Crazy huh? Just ignore my posts then.... cause I don't think I can stop!!!
(do they have support groups for this kind of multiple punctuation addiction?!)
I am soooooo guilty of the multiple punctuation thing. I'm always using multiple "!!!"s. I'm also guilty of the ?!?! cause in my mind ?!?!=:censor::censor::censor:. So if you ask a question with this type of punctuation it means :censor::censor::censor: does this mean or say? I'm also guilty of using many many periods. These signify......pauses......in my thought process. I'm not sure how else to signify a pause so my e-mails, posts, etc are loaded with these "pauses"

As for the whole "will you sale this?" I have seen the following many times and had pictures of them - "for sail" and "fore sale". The latter still on the truck some guys selling down the street from me. It's ok if your grammer is bad, may not be your fault, but you might want to verify things before you put them out on your front lawn for all to see. You think?
post #27 of 28
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Originally Posted by GingersMom View Post
Wow, Zissou's Mom, consider me edumacated!!! Thanks for the info!

(Yes, I know, I'm guilty of the multiple punctuation myself. )
It's all I know about... aks me a math question and I'll try to hide!

Satai, you're making me paranoid about my !!!s and ???s You know, if one ! is excited, then how enthusiastic must !!! be? More is always better Just kidding. I don't know why I do it.
post #28 of 28
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Originally Posted by lisasha3 View Post
I'm also guilty of using many many periods. These signify......pauses......in my thought process. I'm not sure how else to signify a pause so my e-mails, posts, etc are loaded with these "pauses"

Just in case you're curious the correct term for the pauses you mention is an "ellipsis" (plural ellipses), commonly refered to as "dot dot dot". It looks like this:

...

and is used to indicate a pause (informal, and technically, incorrect), to trail off dramatically, or, formally, to indicade the ommission of part of a quotation.

The ellipsis is one of the parts of punctuation I was referring to as "obscure or complicated".

Strictly speaking, you should have to indicate pauses when writing - you just stop, think, decide what to write and write it. However, people do seem to perfer to write emails as if they were talking, so I tend to treat recieved email similarly.

Also, I don't mind an extra dot on the end of the ellipsis to indicate trailing infinately - but that's my only exception.
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