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post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
So I took a trip to Lexington today and got a bag of Pet Promise cat food. It's ingredients seem to be OK. It's not the brand I went looking for though. I wanted either Wellness or Solid gold. But they do not sell a larger bag in those brands for cat food. I know I only have one cat. But I want it to last at least a month (maybe more) since I'll have to go to Lexington to get it. I couldn't justify driving all that way and paying what hubby calls a "butt-load" of money on cat food.. So buying in bulk is the way to go for us.

Here are the ingredients.
INGREDIENTS:
Chicken, brewers rice, corn gluten meal, soy flour, pearled barley, egg product, vegetable oil preserved with mixed-tocopherols, brewers dried yeast, oat groats, natural flavor, calcium carbonate, soy protein isolate, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, salt, dicalcium phosphate, vitamins [Vitamin E supplement, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity)], choline chloride, taurine, minerals [zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], ascorbic acid [source of Vitamin C]. AWB8

Their website. http://www.petpromiseinc.com/cat_dailyHealth.htm

I know it could be better. But I really can't find anything that meets hubby's criteria and is quality. But I think it's at least better than Eukanuba.
post #2 of 15
Better than the other brand YES IMHO


INGREDIENTS:
Chicken, brewers riceQuality ingrediant this is not , corn gluten meal, soy flour allergen and generally not good , pearled barley, egg product, vegetable oil preserved with mixed-tocopherols why not tell me what veggie, brewers dried yeast, oat groatsNot a quality ingrediant, natural flavor, calcium carbonate, soy protein isolatemore soy, phosphoric acid, potassium chloride, salt, dicalcium phosphate, vitamins [Vitamin E supplement, niacin, Vitamin A supplement, calcium pantothenate, thiamine mononitrate, riboflavin supplement, Vitamin B-12 supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, folic acid, Vitamin D-3 supplement, biotin, menadione sodium bisulfite complex (source of Vitamin K activity)], choline chloride, taurine, minerals [zinc sulfate, ferrous sulfate, manganese sulfate, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite], ascorbic acid [source of Vitamin C]. AWB8


Overall not bad but Big box carry better
post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
What is "big box?"
post #4 of 15
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Originally Posted by SalemWitchChild View Post
But I think it's at least better than Eukanuba.
Why? What is wrong with Eukanuba?

Here in Europe, where we dont have the american top foods because of some EU-US controversies; is Eukanuba one of the top line dry foods, with perhaps the highest animal-content of them all.
post #5 of 15
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Originally Posted by StefanZ View Post
Why? What is wrong with Eukanuba?

Here in Europe, where we dont have the american top foods because of some EU-US controversies; is Eukanuba one of the top line dry foods, with perhaps the highest animal-content of them all.
The Bi-products are my biggest concern.
post #6 of 15
Another thing to think about is that the first ingredient is chicken not chicken meal. Chicken contains water which gets cooked out, so the first ingredients are actually all of the grains.
post #7 of 15
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Originally Posted by SalemWitchChild View Post
The Bi-products are my biggest concern.
If the bi-products are correctly handled and used, they are good - yes excellent cat food with much useful nourishment in it. Perhaps even better than pure muscles.

It is the misuse of "byproducts"; putting in selfdead animals, old blood, feets, feathers and so on - yes even sawing dust I were told - which gave the word byproducts bad sound.

Besides. I dont know if we do read the same declaration. On the declaration I read they write chicken liver and chicken fats as what may be identyfied as byproducts. Sounds oK for me.


Schwartze katz writes
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Another thing to think about is that the first ingredient is chicken not chicken meal. Chicken contains water which gets cooked out, so the first ingredients are actually all of the grains.
I have heard the otherwise: meal is a sort of byproduct, OK but not so good as the product... More a useful fill up than main ingrediense.
Here chicken as the better product than chicken meal in this thinking.

The grain DO inhalts quite a lot of water too before it is dried and processed, not only chicken.
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by StefanZ View Post
I have heard the otherwise: meal is a sort of byproduct, OK but not so good as the product... More a useful fill up than main ingrediense.
Here chicken as the better product than chicken meal in this thinking.
I suppose that depends on what article you read and what you believe.

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Originally Posted by StefanZ View Post
The grain DO inhalts quite a lot of water too before it is dried and processed, not only chicken.
But I don't believe "brewers rice, corn gluten meal, soy flour, pearled barley" contain 70-75% water - chicken does. These become the main ingredients when "chicken" is the first ingredient.
post #9 of 15
Thread Starter 
Well to be fair I checked both bags. Eukanuba does have a higher meat content. I looked at both guaranteed analysis. Eukanuba is 35, Pet promise is 31. So I don't know. Maybe I made a bad choice. But I don't know any other places around that sell quality food in the size hubby wants me to buy.
post #10 of 15
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Originally Posted by SchwarzeKatz View Post

But I don't believe "brewers rice, corn gluten meal, soy flour, pearled barley" contain 70-75% water - chicken does. These become the main ingredients when "chicken" is the first ingredient.
There is of course some point in what you say. Still, it IS better to having the chicken mentioned first, then say third as it happens with some cat foods - not even always the cheapest ones...

for example on this: I did looked up the other day at one called Specific. The dry food was almost worthless I would say. But the wet food was frankly quite OK, surely among the better European marks - perhaps even almost in class of the american ones...



And to be correct: you are writing about the Pet Promise, not Eukanuba.
post #11 of 15
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Originally Posted by StefanZ View Post
And to be correct: you are writing about the Pet Promise, not Eukanuba.
Yes, I was, since that was product that was posted with the list of ingredients.
post #12 of 15
Us regulations are not as tight as EU ... By products here can be feet head s unfertilized eggs ... it aint just livers and hearts ....

Protein from Eukanuba is alot from CORN which cats dont digest very well

Chicken meal would be a better first ingrediant as the water is removed and chn meal is the same wt as before cooking but chicken is mostly H20 ... Meal is chicken that is mainly muscle meat with some bone ... It takes 5lbs of chicken to get a lb of meal so meal is concetrated
post #13 of 15
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Originally Posted by sharky View Post
Us regulations are not as tight as EU ... By products here can be feet head s unfertilized eggs ... it aint just livers and hearts ....

Protein from Eukanuba is alot from CORN
which cats dont digest very well

Chicken meal would be a better first ingrediant as the water is removed and chn meal is the same wt as before cooking but chicken is mostly H20 ... Meal is chicken that is mainly muscle meat with some bone ... It takes 5lbs of chicken to get a lb of meal so meal is concetrated
Tx Sharky for the explanations.

But this about Eukanuba proteins from corn cant be correct, relatively speaking. As Eukanuba is known for the perhaps highest animal-ratio in european dry foods...
Ie higher than Hills or RC who are accepted as good (not anywhere in class as the US-best, but good) dry food marks.
post #14 of 15
StephanZ, I think the formulas are different in EU than in the US. The manufacturer has to meet different standards so it might just make a different food. I'm pretty sure other cat food companies do that, I'm just not 100% sure about Eukanuba because I don't know where to find that info.
post #15 of 15
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Originally Posted by Naturestee View Post
StephanZ, I think the formulas are different in EU than in the US. The manufacturer has to meet different standards so it might just make a different food. I'm pretty sure other cat food companies do that, I'm just not 100% sure about Eukanuba because I don't know where to find that info.
Ah, yes, this is possible. And this could explain why american cat food companies "dont want to export to EU because of EU demands": This perhaps not at all a merchant war / conflict where the cat food is the hostage; but simply different demands...


I found Eukanubas home site writing eukanuba in google.

Them having the highest animal halts I know from before, reading on my swedish forums.
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