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post #1 of 22
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I don't know about you all but the day after the election, gas went up 4 cents just because.

If this is the way the Democrats are going to handle things, we all are in deep doggy-doodoo.
post #2 of 22
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Originally Posted by KittenKiya View Post
I don't know about you all but the day after the election, gas went up 4 cents just because.

If this is the way the Democrats are going to handle things, we all are in deep doggy-doodoo.
Things like this go on cycles. Are things going to be better with the Democrats? Maybe. It's going to depend on how things work out with the sitting president and congress.

Gas prices go up and down based on the price of crude oil, so the increase is most likely due to a price increase on the oil markets from a few weeks ago.
post #3 of 22
1)The dems will not be in power until the first of the year.
2) The oil companies are probably going to try to get some last minute price gauging in before they do, because it will probably be addressed after the dems take over.

How soon is another question, since they have a whole lot of stuff to address.
post #4 of 22
I don't think it matters who won in the elections. It was being said that as soon as the elections were over that gas prices would shoot up. Doesn't matter whether you are Democrat or Republican gas was going up.
post #5 of 22
I think the gas prices were lower just so we would think the GOP was doing it so then we would vote for them, now the election is over the Republicans don't have to butter us up anymore so the gas prices are going to launch into the stratosphere again ok, not really, but I do think its kinda messed up that the oil companies are making billions of dollars in profits while the gas prices remain so high (by American standards)
post #6 of 22
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think the gas prices were lower just so we would think the GOP was doing it so then we would vote for them
Yes that is right, I forgot. The oil companies definitely had an interest in the republicans getting elected, and the lobbiest probably had some sort of agreement to control the increases before the elections.
post #7 of 22
You know, the conspiracy theories about the GOP is just plain getting old. Get real - they don't control the gas prices or the oil prices. And what exactly are the Dems going to do to fix it? Limit more how we can extract oil in this country? Push hybrids and other stuff making it impossible to own an affordable mode of transportation? A little realism about what either party can actually accomplish in the marketplace should be taken into account.

The markets definitely did not like the Dems getting control, which is likely why oil prices and thus gas prices shot up. Haven't you noticed how gas prices always go up with the oil futures (the price that we hear daily, which is not actually what is or necessarily what will be paid), but don't go down until the actual prices go down? I hate that about the gas market!

Anyway, yes, the markets reaction is based on how the Democrats generally treat businesses. They want to raise taxes, they aren't big of free markets, are moving more and more to a socialistic attitude. None of this, if they do any of it, is good for the maketplace as it stands currently.
post #8 of 22
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
I think the gas prices were lower just so we would think the GOP was doing it so then we would vote for them, now the election is over the Republicans don't have to butter us up anymore so the gas prices are going to launch into the stratosphere again ok, not really, but I do think its kinda messed up that the oil companies are making billions of dollars in profits while the gas prices remain so high (by American standards)
I would just like to point out that I was kidding.....
post #9 of 22
I think we all just want things to be better and I don't think that's going to happen, we vote on things they pass we never see them, I kinda beleive we don't count. I don't think it matters who's in whatever office either. It hasen't gotten better for years and years that I can recall, and I doubt that it will, I don't know what would make things better then now or 5 from now or past, I think were going to crap in a handbasket. It's all bark and no bite IMO
post #10 of 22
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Originally Posted by KittenKiya View Post
I don't know about you all but the day after the election, gas went up 4 cents just because.

If this is the way the Democrats are going to handle things, we all are in deep doggy-doodoo.
Even if, as Heidi said, its the market's reaction to the democrats, the democrats didn't do it. I really don't have much faith in either party, but I think we should at least at least wait until they DO something before we start bashing them.
post #11 of 22
You can't blame either party for gas prices going up. The prices are being driven primarily by China's rapid economic growth and unquenchable thirst for energy. The same thing can be seen with the price of gold. As India's GDP increases, so does its demand for gold - hence the incredible increase in price, which in some countries, like Australia, has set off a "gold rush".
OPEC has recently also throttled production again.
I also suspect that the oil companies in the U.S. have hiked prices in anticipation of the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, when so many people are on the road visiting family.
post #12 of 22
I want to post my views so bad on how I really feel about what is going on in this country..... But I might get wiretapped with the graces of the patriot act.....
post #13 of 22
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
I want to post my views so bad on how I really feel about what is going on in this country..... But I might get wiretapped with the graces of the patriot act.....
Well I wouldn't be a bit surprised if I'm not already wiretapped, because I have openly given my opinion about the Bush Administration, and that's a big "NO, NO" in Bush's Government.

Oh well....I'm not a terrorist and I don't have interesting telephone conversations, so if I am being wiretapped, those who are doing it, must be bored to tears.
post #14 of 22
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Originally Posted by KittenKiya View Post
I don't know about you all but the day after the election, gas went up 4 cents just because.

If this is the way the Democrats are going to handle things, we all are in deep doggy-doodoo.
Democrates are not even in office yet so it has nothing to do with it. Even if they were it's going to take a little more then a day to fix things. They take over in Janurary.
post #15 of 22
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
I would just like to point out that I was kidding.....
It was a good point though
post #16 of 22
I have a very pessimistic view of our elected officials. Whether it's the Republicans or Democrats in power I don't feel that much of anything will change that will benefit you or I or the country as a whole.

Why do I think this way? It's because I feel that they are all too busy playing politics to work together to do what is right for the country. Instead they play politics, casting their votes to cater to whichever lobbyist/special interest group is catering to their wallet.

Ever get the feeling that the people who make the laws think that they are above them? Personally, I think that most, if not all of them, belong in prison for one reason or another anyway.

Bryan
post #17 of 22
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Originally Posted by abbycats View Post
I want to post my views so bad on how I really feel about what is going on in this country..... But I might get wiretapped with the graces of the patriot act.....
That is sooo true!!
As for gas prices, this time of year, since most of the US, esp. the mid-west and East, uses fuel oil to heat their homes, auto fuel prices go up. maybe the folks back East should be like us out West and use wood-burners - Lord knows they've got plenty of trees for fuel wood. And with the new EPA woodstoves, the air pollution is less. As for California, the electric grid buys much of its electricity from out-of-state power plants that use coal and fail to meet CA's clean air standards, so using electricity is no guarantee that we're not still harming the environment.
As for all the worry about gas prices, maybe we all need to concentrate on learning to need less.
post #18 of 22
I really don't think it had anything to do with the political parties. I definitely don't think gas prices can be blamed completly on one political party eithor. (please note that i'm a republican saying that).- i think the gas companies just usually raise gas prices around the holidays. (it does stink though!)
post #19 of 22
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Originally Posted by catsknowme View Post
As for gas prices, this time of year, since most of the US, esp. the mid-west and East, uses fuel oil to heat their homes, auto fuel prices go up. maybe the folks back East should be like us out West and use wood-burners - Lord knows they've got plenty of trees for fuel wood. And with the new EPA woodstoves, the air pollution is less. As for California, the electric grid buys much of its electricity from out-of-state power plants that use coal and fail to meet CA's clean air standards, so using electricity is no guarantee that we're not still harming the environment.
Well some of us do, at least to supplement the fuel oil burner (see pic of Sophia and step-daughter's cat relaxing in front of our previous woodstove). However, keep in mind that at least where I am it gets bitter cold, not like in California. Heck, when I lived south of SF the houses were far from being insulated. When it is -30 out you need a serious woodstove to keep the place anywhere near comfortable. And you are carrying wood in and hauling more with the wheelbarrow at least twice a day. I know, we lose power regularly and then we rely on that thing. But the EPA ones stink. We had one for about two weeks and then got rid of it. We got about as much heat out of it as if we had had a candle burning in the hearth. Worthless for New England winters.



But back to the original topic, I don't think it matter whether Democrat or Republican. Compared to world politics there is not that much difference. All that matters is that you can throw the bums out every so often, otherwise they become entrenched and get cocky.
post #20 of 22
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Originally Posted by 2dogmom
All that matters is that you can throw the bums out every so often, otherwise they become entrenched and get cocky.
Couldn't agree more which is why I think there needs to be term limits for the members of Congress much like there is for the President.

Bryan
post #21 of 22
You can't be serious....

a 4 cent raise in gas prices "the day after an election"???

post #22 of 22
The male half of a couple I knew years ago was a recovering alcoholic, he had been for years, and had been dry for a long time. But anyhooo, he carried this little card in his pocket with a prayer on it that I still remember (I think)...it goes like this;

God grant me the serenity
to accept things I can't change;
courage to change what things I can;
and the wisdom to know the difference.

I don't set gas prices, they don't listen to me when THEY set gas prices...so I pay up, or drive less, and I have no ulcers
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