Newbie registration help

Look for the nearest local CFA club. Most shows allow for 225 cat entry incl. household. Some shows allow for 450 entries. Only two exceptions to this rule - the Nationals and the International.

Shows are divided into days. The maximum number of rings in one day is 6. The maximum for a 2 day show is 8 (4 a day). Judges are only allowed to judge no more than 250 cats a day. So, a 6 ring show will allow you to go from Open to Premier. It all depends on the strength, wealth and sponsorship of the club that sets the number of rings per show and how many shows will be held a year.

Thanks for all your help. I'll be keeping you posted when I go to my first cat show

I'm thinking of starting a kitty blog, I'm silly like that.

Originally Posted by Abymummy

I can only speak for CFA so if you cat is not CFA, ignore this.

You only need to send off the transfer papers (green slip which should be signed by the previous owner or breeder on the back), keep the Champion papers with you.

You cannot change the prefix and because the cat is already a champion you cannot change her registered name either (the name change would have to be done before she became titled). But you can add a suffix but since you are not a breeder, it is an unneccessary additional charge.

Hope this helps!

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Persi is registered with the CFA and I got away with changing the prefix. I think this may be because the breeeder had not filled in the prefix for me like my book told me would have been the case. Sounds like I just lucked out although I never have any plans of showing or breeding anyway. BTW, people are continually telling me I do not have a Persian cat, and now I am looking at the CFA registration for Persi which says:
Breed: Persian Color: Seal-point Himalayan.

Originally Posted by Persi

Persi is registered with the CFA and I got away with changing the prefix. I think this may be because the breeeder had not filled in the prefix for me like my book told me would have been the case. Sounds like I just lucked out although I never have any plans of showing or breeding anyway. BTW, people are continually telling me I do not have a Persian cat, and now I am looking at the CFA registration for Persi which says:
Breed: Persian Color: Seal-point Himalayan.

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Sounds like you did get lucky, if I were a cattery I might be a little more bothered by the prefix.

Why would people tell you that your cat isn't Persian? No way could there have been a mistake, right?

Hmmm - did CFA change to include the himalayans now in the persian classes and shown as "pointed division". I'll have to get out my recent show catalog and check on it.



I just checked my catalog - they now have it as Persian - Himalayan Division. You do have a pointed persian Not sure when they changed it but for the longest time Persians and Himis were separated breeds in showing. Finally CFA got smart and included it as a class division - himis really are pointed persians - standard is the same; color is just different.

Himis have been a division of the persian class for a while now...but no-one really calls a Himi a persian, they're just Himis!!!!

Originally Posted by Persi

Persi is registered with the CFA and I got away with changing the prefix. I think this may be because the breeeder had not filled in the prefix for me like my book told me would have been the case. Sounds like I just lucked out although I never have any plans of showing or breeding anyway. BTW, people are continually telling me I do not have a Persian cat, and now I am looking at the CFA registration for Persi which says:
Breed: Persian Color: Seal-point Himalayan.

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This can happen...if the ktten was litter registered as "Pre-paid" (the breeder gets a small discount) and if the breeder just gave you a copy of the litter registration and the pin #, then you can name the cat anything you want! It doesn't happen very often though...

Originally Posted by MCMaggie

Sounds like you did get lucky, if I were a cattery I might be a little more bothered by the prefix.

Why would people tell you that your cat isn't Persian? No way could there have been a mistake, right?

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I think I now know why I got by with it. Because it says right on the registration that I do not have breeder's rights, therefore nobody cared I guess about the breeder's name.

When I registered the litter they ALL had my cattery prefix. So it didn't matter if the cat was shown or bred or sold as a pet to be neutered. If they got the papers as a pet, they still could name the cat but all the kittens would have had my cattery name as the prefix in CFA.

Mabey the breeder didn't have a cattery name? The prefix (with TICA anyway) is reserved for the breeders name, it can't be changed (i thought). when I fill out a litter application for my kittens, I get back a blue slip for each kitten, and my cattery name is all typed in already, and can't be changed, if it goes to another cattery it says my name first the the name they choose for it and the suffix goes last (their cattery name) if they sell the cat to another cattery then the prefix can be changed to show the new owners cattery, but I am always the breeder and my name can't be taken off example: my queen is Blueyed saphireIce of Celestialrags. Blueyed is the prefix and they are the breeder Saphire Ice is her name, and celestialrags is my cattery name. If I sell her to another cattery, then they can take my cattery name off and add theirs, but they can't change the breeders name. The breeder will always be the breeder and I didn't think that can ever be changed. When I breed Ice her kittens blue slips come back filled in with my cattery name already so they show my cattery name as the prefix, celestialrags so and so of such and such cattery, if they sell her to another cattery, she is still celestialrags so and so but they can change the prefix to their cattery. That's how I have understood it, and this is TICA mabey it is different with other registeries?

Same rules in CFA and ACFA - breeder's cattery is always on there with the cat's name - only thing that can be changed is the owner's cattery.

The ONLY exception that you would not have the breeder's cattery name would be under CFA rules. IF the breeder did not have a registered CFA name (they only registered in say TICA or ACFA), then you would have the cat's name and the owner's cattery name. That happened to only one of my cats because the breeder was not CFA registered - only ACFA.

That is why I registered all my cats with CFA and ACFA with the same cattery from the beginning. IMO it doesn't matter if you never show in CFA, you really should have your cattery registered in CFA as its the biggest association and most accepted in other associations.

Does any one know if CFA has changed their rules yet? They only accept bi-colored ragdolls, and not the others, or non-traditional, such as lynx, ect. I heard they were going to allow them but i'm not sure if it is allowed yet, I can't register with them until they do, my bi-color male has a lynx point in his back ground. Lets see, his grandmother is a chocolate lynx point, and couldn't be registered with CFA, so her litter couldn't be either (which is his mother. So as of now, the only one I am registered with is TICA. My other cat (a blue point) came from a cattery that registers with TICA and CFF, but I only did the TICA, I am not sure if they (mentors cattery) reg with CFA, or not. Probley though. Any way, the rules I had heard were changing to allow non-traditional, even though my male is a seal bi-color (technically a high mitted) where his grandmother was a lynx point, he couldn't be reg CFA. If I am able to register ALL of my cats with CFA then I would do both.
What does it take to register with a different registery? Since they are registered TICA, I would need to send their papers to CFA, along with a certified pedigree? and of course the proper fees. Is that all that needs to be done to be registered with CFA? Will I have to register my cattery name first though? Does it matter how many you are registered with? I was thinking about registering with CFF, as well as CFA and I am already TICA.
I get a little confussed with registering, I hope some one can understand what I am trying to say, LOL!

What is ACFA? How big are they? Do ragdolls register with them? (I know some registeries are for certain breeds I guess, like with ragdolls, one of their registeries were IRCA, (i think it is international ragdoll cat association? mabey, so you wouldn't have a maine coon registered with them, right? Mabey I should just stick with TICA, and not show, LOL! since I get so confussed it would be better to just not show, or any thing, LOL! (no, I am really not that closed minded, I really find this interesting, and am very willing to learn all I can, I went to one show (there aren't many around here,) and I am hooked, I love it. and can't wait to do more!

Originally Posted by celestialrags

Does any one know if CFA has changed their rules yet? They only accept bi-colored ragdolls, and not the others, or non-traditional, such as lynx, ect. I heard they were going to allow them but i'm not sure if it is allowed yet, I can't register with them until they do, my bi-color male has a lynx point in his back ground. Lets see, his grandmother is a chocolate lynx point, and couldn't be registered with CFA, so her litter couldn't be either (which is his mother. So as of now, the only one I am registered with is TICA. My other cat (a blue point) came from a cattery that registers with TICA and CFF, but I only did the TICA, I am not sure if they (mentors cattery) reg with CFA, or not. Probley though. Any way, the rules I had heard were changing to allow non-traditional, even though my male is a seal bi-color (technically a high mitted) where his grandmother was a lynx point, he couldn't be reg CFA. If I am able to register ALL of my cats with CFA then I would do both.
What does it take to register with a different registery? Since they are registered TICA, I would need to send their papers to CFA, along with a certified pedigree? and of course the proper fees. Is that all that needs to be done to be registered with CFA? Will I have to register my cattery name first though? Does it matter how many you are registered with? I was thinking about registering with CFF, as well as CFA and I am already TICA.
I get a little confussed with registering, I hope some one can understand what I am trying to say, LOL!

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With my trusty show rules book, I come!!!!

Okay - All it takes to register your cats with CFA is a 3 generation pedigree and the the correct amount of funds. Here's the link :
http://www.cfa.org/faq/faq-registration.html

You can register all you cats even the non- showable colors- eg. all lynx points etc. can be registered as "All other Ragdoll Colors" - color identification # 0460 (male) 0461 (female). Showable colors are Seal Point & white (0482/3) and Blue point & White (0486/7).

If I'm not mistaken, you can even register online!

You can tell I spend too much time cuddling up to my rules book can't you...

Originally Posted by Abymummy

With my trusty show rules book, I come!!!!

Okay - All it takes to register your cats with CFA is a 3 generation pedigree and the the correct amount of funds. Here's the link :
http://www.cfa.org/faq/faq-registration.html

You can register all you cats even the non- showable colors- eg. all lynx points etc. can be registered as "All other Ragdoll Colors" - color identification # 0460 (male) 0461 (female). Showable colors are Seal Point & white (0482/3) and Blue point & White (0486/7).

If I'm not mistaken, you can even register online!

You can tell I spend too much time cuddling up to my rules book can't you...

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Thank-you!
I will be spending much time checking out their site. I have to get an application for registered cattery name first, and then I will go from there. With any luck, I will soon be registered with CFA.

Originally Posted by celestialrags

Thank-you!
I will be spending much time checking out their site. I have to get an application for registered cattery name first, and then I will go from there. With any luck, I will soon be registered with CFA.

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You're welcome! I just did a quick name search for you and as for now, CelestialRags is not yet a registered cattery name in CFA. There is however, a CelestialCats registered and I'm not too sure if that may cause you problems in getting your cattery name registered!

Good luck!

Originally Posted by Abymummy

You're welcome! I just did a quick name search for you and as for now, CelestialRags is not yet a registered cattery name in CFA. There is however, a CelestialCats registered and I'm not too sure if that may cause you problems in getting your cattery name registered!

Good luck!

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hmm, I'm not sure. I know there is some one with a cattery (not sure if it is TICA/CFA or both) that is celestrialrags, and if it is TICA, so is mine, and I didn't have any problems, she had hers first and I didn't know there was one so close to mine, but I was able to use mine celestial, so I hope I can!
What happens if I can't? Will I have to have one name for TICA and one for CFA? Or would I have to..I don't know? Hmmm?
Thanks for running the name check

In any event, when you register with CFA you'll have to submit at least two name choices - put in CelestialRags as first choice and put in a 2nd choice...but since the name CelestialRags does not exist yet in CFA I don't think you should have any problems getiing the name registered (I hope!).