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I just wrote the Mayor of Burbank a letter

post #1 of 24
Thread Starter 
I know a lot of people these days dislike smoking, but here in Los Angeles County, one city after the other is banning smoking even outdoors. The Mayor of Burbank is proposing that they now do it in Burbank. I understand banning smoking indoors, but outside? Please! This area is one of the most polluted area's in the country, and it's primarily due to automobile exhaust.

I told the Mayor if he wants to ban smoking outside, then he should also propose banning cars, SUV's, Buses, and Airplane traffic. I told him that all of the bureaucrats are trying to take our rights away from us, one right at a time. I also suggested that it is the IN thing these days to pick on cigarette smokers, but that it makes no sense to ban outside smoking when cars are putting more pollution into the air, than any smoker can.

I'm sure my letter will do no good, but I'm just so sick of these "so called" do gooders who only picked "some" things to pick on, but of course never pick the things that they themselves could even think about doing without. I think if Burbank should ban outside smoking, then they should ban all automobile traffic and FORCE everyone to either ride a bicycle or walk everywhere.
post #2 of 24
Good for you, Hope! I get so disgusted with people who go on and on about passive smoking, but wouldn't dream of giving up their gas guzzlers, fireworks, smoke-spewing furnaces, etc..
post #3 of 24
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Good for you, Hope! I get so disgusted with people who go on and on about passive smoking, but wouldn't dream of giving up their gas guzzlers, fireworks, smoke-spewing furnaces, etc..
I can definitely see the argument for banning inside, but outside?? puh-leeze
post #4 of 24
Here in Ontario smokers have to be at least 20 feet from the door of any public building. It hasn't been banned outright from the outdoors but it's getting there.
post #5 of 24
Smoking is now banned on most San Diego beaches and not just for the second hand smoke.
People's feet kept getting burned from tossed butts that remained lit in the sand.
post #6 of 24
Perhaps this thread should be moved to the IMO forum?
post #7 of 24
Good for you, Hope!!!
post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by StarryEyedTiGeR View Post
Perhaps this thread should be moved to the IMO forum?
I agree - this is one of those hot button issues.

Good for you Hope! I agree that the smoking bans are getting ridiculous. It IS still legal!
post #9 of 24
I quite smoking a few years ago but my fiance still does and we now seldom go out to eat because of all the bans. His fear (which is probably valid) is that they will eventaully try to ban it alotgether like prohabition. Some places have bans on smoking on commercial buildings/ with in so many feet of a commercial building door/ in your own car/ and yes, outside at all. I could easily see people trying to get it banned in homes too... or apartment buildings w/ shared walls ans such.
post #10 of 24
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
I told the Mayor if he wants to ban smoking outside, then he should also propose banning cars, SUV's, Buses, and Airplane traffic. I told him that all of the bureaucrats are trying to take our rights away from us, one right at a time. I also suggested that it is the IN thing these days to pick on cigarette smokers, but that it makes no sense to ban outside smoking when cars are putting more pollution into the air, than any smoker can.
Excellent points! I hope your letter makes them think.
post #11 of 24
I may be in the firing line here (and a little OT), but i don't think it Should be legal. Its so dangerous, and if it were discovered now there is no way it would be allowed.
However taking away smoking by inches does seem a little strange to me. If they're gonna do something about it then do so full stop.
post #12 of 24
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I can definitely see the argument for banning inside, but outside?? puh-leeze
I smoke, and have lost track of the number of times I've "quit for good". I have no problem with not being allowed to smoke indoors, where I'm exposing other people (or pets) to the toxins, but I don't see why it should be banned outdoors, too. We have a car that may (or not) be used once a week - we take public transport, walk, or ride a bike. Does anybody seriously think that my smoking a cigarette outdoors poses more of a health risk for them than all the car/truck emissions? And what about the noise pollution that those with stereos, etc., or cell phones expose other people to? Electro-smog, anyone? How about if all BC pills, fertility and erection-enhancing drugs be banned, since hormones end up in the water supply through excretions?
post #13 of 24
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Originally Posted by cata_mint View Post
I may be in the firing line here (and a little OT), but i don't think it Should be legal. Its so dangerous, and if it were discovered now there is no way it would be allowed.
However taking away smoking by inches does seem a little strange to me. If they're gonna do something about it then do so full stop.
I agree with this. However, like any other illegal 'drug' or even alcohol durring prohabition, people will find a way to partake anyway. Then they'll have one more thing to spend our tax dollars fighting.
post #14 of 24
I have to applaud you! I think it is great when people actually do something rather than just complain.

I say this even though I believe smoking should be illegal. I agree about the pollutions for vehicels too. Something needs to be done about it!!!!

I've written my city in the past to complain about the poor public transit and this year they've done some revamping.
post #15 of 24
Honestly, I think the ban on smoking within 20 feet of buildings is great. They recently did this for my campus and I was so thankful for it. My doctor believes that I'm allergic to cigarette smoke, since I'm sick for about 3 days after exposure/breathing it. About 1/3 of our campus smokes, so just walking into/leaving my dormitory I had to hold my breathe until I was safely away from it. It really sucks, to be honest with you. The ban has made it a lot easier for me. While I don't think a total ban on it is good, some restrictions HAVE to be made. To the many smokers who consider the 20-foot bans "chipping away at their rights", I counter that they're chipping away at my health. I should not have to be sick for three days straight just because people are annoyed that they have to walk 10-20 steps away to smoke. Sheesh!
post #16 of 24
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Originally Posted by katiemae1277 View Post
I can definitely see the argument for banning inside, but outside?? puh-leeze
post #17 of 24
I am going to have to diagree with you. The last thing I want to do is have to walk through a could of cigerette smoke just to get into the building. I think it's just as much as a problem as smokeing inside.
post #18 of 24
Thread Starter 
Well I think the 20 foot ban is fine. What Burbank wants to do, is ban all outdoor smoking, even if you were 200 feet away from the building.

I recieved a letter back from the Mayor of Burbank and he agreed with me that automobiles and airplanes were a serious pollution problem in Burbank, stating that they have caused Burbank to be the sootiest city in the US. However, he still thinks that outside smoking should be banned as a health issue.
post #19 of 24
Good for you Hope.

Personally, I don't smoke, but it is stupid to ban smoking outside. I have a neighbour who smokes in her livingroom and when the wind is in this direction, I often get a waft of smoke in mine - that doesn't mean I am going to go and tell her that she can not smoke in her own residence.

Particularly with the tax cash grab the government have on cigarettes which partially pasys for healthcare costs etc, with California collecting nearly $1.5 billion in taxes on tabacco products each year. Even if smoking was made completely illegal - there is already a huge black market for cigarettes which according to this article cost the California government $200 million in taxes in 1999 so who knows how much now. Where would they get that money from?

To say that they would make it up is laughable as cancer can take so long to develop and there are so many diseases and ailments out there that healthcare costs will keep rising regardless of how many people smoke... your lungs will still be polluted by vehicle emissions along with all the preservatives in food and hormone treatments and other medications that get into your body via the water system that have who knows what effect on your body!
post #20 of 24
I don't smoke in the house, or the truck for that matter but to ban it all together? If they do that, then why not ban alcohol too? Because it will just make people want it even more and they will find a way to make it or obtain it.. leave it alone!
post #21 of 24
They will NEVER EVER ban cigarettes, trust me.
The money they would lose would be astranomical, no way. Money is what it is about.
post #22 of 24
i know its to soon,but i keep checking to see if there was response to your letter yet.

Once before i wrote a letter, but all i got back was something that said thank you for your support blah blah blah, had nothing to do with what i wrote(i hope that does not happen to you)

i used to smoke but stopped serveral years ago. But the banning stuff they are doing is getting way out of hand.
post #23 of 24
She did...
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Originally Posted by HopeHacker View Post
I recieved a letter back from the Mayor of Burbank and he agreed with me that automobiles and airplanes were a serious pollution problem in Burbank, stating that they have caused Burbank to be the sootiest city in the US. However, he still thinks that outside smoking should be banned as a health issue.
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She did...
lol hmm i guess when reading i should wear glasses
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