What the hell is a cheetoh??

Originally Posted by lionessrampant

My opinion is that if you're getting a cat because of it's look or you believe you can custom create it's personality....you probably shouldn't get a cat.

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And mabey if you go shopping at a shelter for say... a calico, mabey you shouldn't have a cat either. What difference is it if you like the look of a calico or spotted? Or if you like the personality of a moggie or a purebred? it just a matter of preference, but the real issue here is ones a "rescue, or shelter moggie" and the other is that bad word..."purebred" (the sheltercat killer)

Originally Posted by celestialrags

And mabey if you go shopping at a shelter for say... a calico, mabey you shouldn't have a cat either. What difference is it if you like the look of a calico or spotted? Or if you like the personality of a moggie or a purebred? it just a matter of preference, but the real issue here is ones a "rescue, or shelter moggie" and the other is that bad word..."purebred" (the sheltercat killer)

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There isn't any difference. As an adoption counselor, I generally don't adopt to people who come in and will only seriously look at a specific color.

But what is bothersome is that in breeding people say they are creating a such and such personality. Personally, I believe that's misleading as these cats are going to be individuals anyway. It also disturbs me because it severely limits people. What's going to happen to the Siamese that's quiet or the Bengal that's a couch potato? Why do people feel that they are so important as to demand that an animal be created for them to suit their exact fancy and every whim? It's sort of like almost making it ok for people to have the attitude of cats and dogs being expendable and disposable...if they don't fit into my life exactly as they should, then what happens?

So, wait. How are these and toygers any different than puppuykats or even (don't hit me) a bengal or ragdoll? Should we really have this much power over nature?

Forgive me, but I'm not sure I understand how breeds like these are any different than the puggles or bullinese or anything like that. Maybe I'm missing something?


If you are refering to my post, I am saying that there really isn't a difference, and basically that is how these hybrid breeds start, some one taking two (or more) breeds and creating set standards and looks personalities, ect. But, a BYB takes a dog that got bred by a neighbors dog and acts like it is a registered new breed to make money on their mistake. Where people trying to create and registered breeds have years of knowledge and understanding of genetics and a care for what they are doing, they aren't just producing as many as they can and making a quick buck on them. Basically I am saying they aren't much different then ragdolls (except ragdolls are acknowldged by registeries and puggles are not) They are all hybrid breeds and they have to start some where is all I was saying, I am sure by the end of the ramblings in my last post every one was unsure of what I started out saying, LOL, and probley will be by the end of this one too! (that's what happens when you think way faster then you can (hunt and peck) I mean type

Originally Posted by lionessrampant

There isn't any difference. As an adoption counselor, I generally don't adopt to people who come in and will only seriously look at a specific color.

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That is really interesting! There are all these homeless cats NEEDING homes, and adoptors are being turned away because they are looking for a particular color? So they then go find a specific breed from a breeder. So, who is taking homes away from shelter cats? Every adopter turned away for likeing grey cats is killing a shelter cat that could have had a home.

I have two moggie rescues that I love dearly. If I do decide to get a Snowshoe I am not going to be taking my two moggies to the nearest shelter nor will I love them any less. I know that overpopulation and irresponsible people not getting their cats fixed is a huge problem but I don't think I should be made to feel guilty because I am thinking about getting a Snowshoe. If I do get one that turns out to not fit exactly the breed's normal personality I am not going to love him any less nor am I going to be taking him to a shelter.

Originally Posted by Denice

I have two moggie rescues that I love dearly. If I do decide to get a Snowshoe I am not going to be taking my two moggies to the nearest shelter nor will I love them any less. I know that overpopulation and irresponsible people not getting their cats fixed is a huge problem but I don't think I should be made to feel guilty because I am thinking about getting a Snowshoe. If I do get one that turns out to not fit exactly the breed's normal personality I am not going to love him any less nor am I going to be taking him to a shelter.

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You shouldn't feel guilty for wanting/getting a snowshoe. I think it is unfair claiming purebreds take homes away from rescue cats, it isn't even true.
I hope you get one I have heard they are lovely cats although I think ragdolls are the greatest breed ( I am biast though, I own and raise them ) So my opinion doesn't count

There is no such thing as a pedigree cat taking away homes from domestics...every single pedigree breeder I know, at home and abroad, have at least 1, 2, 3 or more domestics at home (incl. me!).

Originally Posted by celestialrags

That is really interesting! There are all these homeless cats NEEDING homes, and adoptors are being turned away because they are looking for a particular color? So they then go find a specific breed from a breeder. So, who is taking homes away from shelter cats? Every adopter turned away for likeing grey cats is killing a shelter cat that could have had a home.

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As an adoption counselor at a no-kill shelter, it isn't my job to adopt out the most cats I possibly can, but rather to be a public educator about the importance of being a life-lng pet owner despite circumstances. Now, I realize that we all have our prefernces for coat color, hair length, etc., but basically what my coworkers and I have to do is profile people. The people who come in looking for a "pretty" cat are the ones who are most likely to return it...and I have the adoption summaries and documentation to prove that. We're looking for owners who are willing to take on this committment 100%, despite anything, and if you look for a cat based on how it looks ESPECIALLY in a shelter, there's a good chance you're going to be disappointed when it comes to personality. I mean, I'm the first to admit that if I get along really well with 2 cats and one is a brown tabby and one is solid gray, my preference for gray would likely be the deciding factor. But to rule out other cats just because of coat color seems completely asinine to me.

If I had to guess at it, I would say that a LOT of this thread is better suited to the IMO Forum here at TCS. However, since everyone *looking around sternly at ALL the thread participants* WILL continue to be nice here, it can stay for now.

Originally Posted by lionessrampant

What's going to happen to the Siamese that's quiet or the Bengal that's a couch potato?

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There's no such thing as a bengal couch potato.

Gaye, we finally get to see your cats! Nice sig.

Originally Posted by Kai Bengals

Gaye, we finally get to see your cats! Nice sig.

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I'm gaga over George!

I just want to add my 2 cents here. I'm a very responsible pet owner and have never considered them disposable, but if I were to go to a shelter looking for say a particular colour of cat (I love grey, all black or all white) which I can see myself wanting to do and I was turned down because of that, you can bet I would be . I would take my rant to the owner of the shelter and then I would go to a different shelter where I would be ALLOWED to choose the kitten I wanted to take home and love forever to adopt.

I think those Cheeto's look like a cross between a Bengal and an Egyptian Mau. Very cool looking cats, but I am biased and I prefer Bengal's. I think the Bengal is the most beautiful of the Wild looking cats.

As far as people wanting a cat or a dog for a certain look or breed, I guess I'm guilty of that. I prefer Siamese and Bengal cats, both for their look and their Purrsonality. By the way, my SunLee is a very quiet non talkative Siamese. My Simba is a typical Bengal though in EVERY way, except he's not that fond of water.

I see nothing wrong with a person who wants to adopt a particular colour. We basically pick everything in our lives, including our mates based in some part on looks. I don't think there is anything wrong with someone going to get a shelter kitty, and they want a white cat, or a black cat or whatever their preference is.

I also don't see a problem with picking your favorite color cat. I'm partial to the red tabbys or calicos.

Both DH and I prefer the chocolate ocicat over any of the other colors; so why would we take another color if it was available if its not the color we want?

BTW when I contacted oci breeders (and SPECIFIED we wanted a chocolate spotted male), I got responses of:

"we have a chocolate silver female..."
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"we have a chocolate silver or cinnomin male"....


I don't understand why a breeder would email back if they didn't have what you want - we specified what we wanted - I'd have rather them say "sorry we have no chocolate males at this time" instead of thinking we'd take another color...geesh

I think there are many reasons that people will choose one cat over another but of the primary ones, the reason I hear most often when people contact me about a kitten is color, with gender being a close second. Perhaps people shared their home with a cat in the past of a certain color/gender and want another ... many people here, participating in this thread, have mentioned that they might be partial to one cat over another simply due to color.

If they are going to leave hair all over the furniture, I want it to atleast match.

Originally Posted by celestialrags

If they are going to leave hair all over the furniture, I want it to atleast match.

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*snicker* You tickle me to death sometimes! That was a good one!

Originally Posted by celestialrags

If they are going to leave hair all over the furniture, I want it to atleast match.

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When I chose my first 2 rescue cats (or should I say chosen by) - Jaffa and his brother Magpie - I wanted black and white or classic tabby. For some reason I wasn't overly fond of gingers and preferred short hair. What did I come away with? 1 ginger and 1 long haired When I was looking for a somali I really wanted a usual (ruddy) but the only male available was a red. But he was gorgeous and now I'm glad I've got him. S'pose what I'm saying is that there's nothing wrong with wanting a particular colour, but quite often people end up being swayed by other factors in the end anyway.