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post #1 of 16
Thread Starter 
What the heck is she thinking with this? The whole situation just seems so strange to me.
First, that she's adopting an African child in the first place. To me it seems she just jumping on the bandwagon. "African" orphans are apparently great fashion accessories now thanks to Angelina.
Secondly, if she wants to adopt an orphan, then go adopt an orphan!! This little boy has a dad and a whole extended family in Malawi who haven't totally abandoned him, and don't actually want to give him up for good. What a sad country where the best hope for a future for your son is to give him to an orphanage to raise.
Think of how many countless true orphans there are on that continent. Why doesn't she choose a real orphan?
post #2 of 16
Perhaps she thought she did. I mean if a kid is in an orphanage, wouldn't you think he is an orphan?
Too bad for the kid that dad changed his mind or didn't understand, cause now he will go back to his impoverished life. He almost hit the jackpot.

Still, I think we have plenty of orphans here that need a family. Why doesn't she adopt one of our orphans?
post #3 of 16
Thread Starter 
From what I understand, she actually met the father. The dad is now saying that he didn't understand properly when he signed the adoption papers, and wants him back.
post #4 of 16
I would just really like to know what's wrong with all the Children in this Country that need homes, seems kinda phoney to me everyone adopting from other Countrys, I know they need homes to but I kinda have to agree that it seems like a fashion statement in a sence..All the money they spend going back and forth overseas could make a nice donation ..But it's a way to stay in the news
post #5 of 16
I think someone got to the dad and now he is seeing dollar signs.
He did not want that child. He gave him up.

If I were her I would keep that child, that is Baloney that the father is saying he didn't understand, he understood allright.

She is trying to save one child, geesh, let her do that.

And I don't even like Madonna.

Cindy
post #6 of 16
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Originally Posted by ckblv View Post
I think someone got to the dad and now he is seeing dollar signs.
I agree. The child was in an orphanage and initial reports about this said that the father was happy that the child was going to be adopted, and that he'd spoken with Madonna who had promised she would bring him back to visit and keep in touch with his country of birth. Now he seems to be changing his tune.

I'm not a fan of this shopping for babies - one from this country, one from that etc. but I think a lot of it is down to how difficult it is to adopt a child over here. I don't know how it works in the US (or over here really) but I suspect Madonna would be considered too old to adopt a child over here. The process is also likely to take several years with adoptive parents having to undergo a rigorous assessment to see if they are suitable before they are matched with a child. It seems to be a lot easier to adopt from overseas (not necessarily a good thing, but I can understand why someone would choose that route).
post #7 of 16
I think in every country there are so many kids who need a better home.
But then again, they never advertise on tv how much children in our country really need help, they only advertise children in asia and africa.

I had a friend from Kenya, and she said that it was rubbish how they displayed on tv that Kenya was a really poor country and with so many orphans.
now it just gets me thinking if those countries are really helping with "our" money
post #8 of 16
I agree with the idea that if she wants to "help" so much, she'd be better off donating some of her millions to help care for those that need it by building and funding hospitals and shelters instead of hand-picking her "pet" African child from a line-up.

What, was he the cutest of the 12 that were lined up? Is that why she chose him?

Yeah...THAT'S a great reason for adopting a child.
post #9 of 16
From what I read, she did donate several million to orphanages in Malawi. The problem in industrialized countries isn't that there aren't orphans, but that there aren't enough released for adoption. (The current rate here in Germany is twelve potential adoptive couples for each child "available".) It's a process that can take years, with forty-somethings, like Madonna, not even considered. As a result, people with money "buy" children overseas.
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Originally Posted by ckblv
I think someone got to the dad and now he is seeing dollar signs.
He did not want that child. He gave him up.
That sounds very likely.
post #10 of 16
No, no, no. This is the last straw. Now don't get me wrong, I think it's great when people help those in need, but NOT Madonna! She really needs to do us all a favor and send herself to a mental health clinic to get her issues worked out. She has spent half her live and all her career being somebody else (or many other people) that I can't even see her generousity as being genuine. If the attention is not on her she spends her time with lies and publicity stunts to get the spot light to shine her way. She is a sick puppy.

End of rant...
post #11 of 16
Due to the fact that the social stigma of unwed motherhood has abated and that abortions are legal, there is a shortage of adoptable babies in this country. Child welfare laws also make the process long, difficult and expensive. There are plenty of older children available but, many of them have physical or emotional problems that make them hard to place. For many people, overseas adoption is a viable alternative.

As for Madonna, an adoptive child from a Third World country seems to be the latest celebrity fashion accessory. It is interesting to note that this "adoption" is coming at a time when she is being castigated, for her sacrligeous concert tour. Call me cynical but, I think this all a ploy to garner some good publicity.
post #12 of 16
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if she wants to "help" so much, she'd be better off donating some of her millions to help care for those that need it by building and funding hospitals and shelters instead of hand-picking her "pet" African child from a line-up.
I agree totally.
I'm the Mom of a foreign-adopted daughter, who spent the first 4 years of her life in an orphanage. My DH & I tried to adopt a child (not a baby, but a child over the age of 3) in this country for 7 years. We finally decided to go the foreign route, and 2 years later out daughter came to us.
It's hard to adopt a child in the US, not because the kids aren't out there but because the parental rights are more important than the child's welfare. At one time we looked into adopting siblings; they had been in foster-care (with a foster-mom who was in her 70s, who had a 40 something son who abused them in everyway possible) for 6 years. The kids each had different fathers and neither the father's nor the mother's rights had been terminated---after 6 years!
Of course, if you have the money you can hire a surrogate or adopt a new-born.
Celebrity adoptions just annoy the heck out of me. These people could do so much good for dozens of children. When we adopted, we sent items to our daughter's orphanage on a regular basis, items that the kids wouldn't have had otherwise. Think of what people with money could do for those kids!
post #13 of 16
Thread Starter 
I just want to say kudos to anyone who adopts a child. I'm a big fan of adoption personally. And I think that foreign adoption is fantastic. There seems to be a lot of that happening, and I don't see anything wrong with it at all.
I'm not a big Madonna fan, but she doesn't bother me either; I'm kind of indifferent to her I guess. This whole adoption story just struck me as very strange, and I can't see her motives being all good. It just doesn't seem right, like there's something else going on.
post #14 of 16
I saw a segment on this last night on a news channel. They said that she has been supporting Malawi for years and has regularly donated money to that country. It is her pet project. However, Malawi does not allow foreign adoptions. So she somehow circumvented the law to begin with to "adopt" this boy, probably with the $3 million donation to the orphanage. Still, she hand picked a boy who still had parents, when there is over 1 million true orphans in Malawi alone, let alone other countries where she could have adopted legally.

They also pointed out that Meg Ryan adopted a little girl from China in January of this year. It seems like she did that just because she wanted to, no publicity around it at all. Mia Farrow has adopted 10 children, many from third world countries. The most publicity she got was when Woody Allen took up a relationship with one of them.
post #15 of 16
If anyone is interested, I just read that Madonna will be on Oprah this Wednesday to discuss the adoption. This should be interesting.
post #16 of 16
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They also pointed out that Meg Ryan adopted a little girl from China in January of this year. It seems like she did that just because she wanted to, no publicity around it at all. Mia Farrow has adopted 10 children, many from third world countries. The most publicity she got was when Woody Allen took up a relationship with one of them.
These are the people that I admire, the ones who adopt a child because they want to, not because it's good publicity. I think this (Madonna's pending adoption) is just another publicity ploy on her part.
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