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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/10/17/300...ver/index.html

From the article:

America claimed 100 million people in 1915 but didn't reach 200 million until 1967. The 400 millionth person is likely to arrive in 2043, according to the Census Bureau.

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And yet, Mexico still gets all pissy when we say that we can't take all of their illegal immigrants into our country. We're growing faster than ever and at some point this country simply can't sustain this type of growth. Many would say we've already reached and surpassed that point. So what's the solution? Limits on number of children? Actually curtailing the number of illegal immigrants who enter and stay in the country (not just from Mexico - from anywhere)? Just let everyone in and see how many can fit - kinda like the phone booth stunts in the '50s?
post #2 of 20
There was an apartment fire in my area last year, and it burned the house down. We found out after the fact that there had been 22 illegal Brazillians living in a 2-bedroom, 2nd floor apartment in that building, and one of them had $20K in cash in a shoebox that got burned up in the fire.

22 people living in one small apartment - and the only reason we found out was because of the fire. I don't even want to guess how many illegals are actually living in a 5-mile radius - it has to be close to a thousand, at LEAST.
post #3 of 20
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6057004.stm
People will eventually have to start moving to Europe, which has negative population growth, I suppose.
What really got to me in the above article was the number of cars in the U.S.. If such population growth continues, there's going to have to be some big changes in urban planning and public transit, as the trend toward "exurbia" will have to stop.
post #4 of 20
Sad, very sad, why would people want to breed like that. It is just so wrong.
post #5 of 20
Out of curiousity, how is this measured? BY Social Security/Immigration status? Or birth records? Cause as Gingersmom said, there may actually be a LOT more people here today.

I suppose we're just going to have to get use to the sharing style. We're all going to be a lot closer by 2043. Hopefully not as noisy tough...I'm mentally done with noisy neighbors after my last apartment.
post #6 of 20
sheesh maybe people should start getting spayed and neutered
post #7 of 20
that kinda number freaks me out. Australia & the US are roughly the same size in land mass yet we only have about 20million people. Crazy how different it is.
post #8 of 20
a local news station was here in my NICU reporting that the possible 300 millionth baby was born her this morning. I cannot give the name, its a big no no.
But there was rumor it was a baby in California or something like that.
I havent heard much or watched the news so Im not sure.

I'll let ya know if it was here in Milwaukee WI.
I doubt it.
post #9 of 20
AND STILL, Californians are presuaded to avoid changing their lifestyles, as can be seen in the ANTI-PROP. 87 ads: "87 is BAD - it will mean HIGHER GAS PRICES and MORE DEPENDENCE on foreign oil"
What ever happened to the good, old-fashioned wisdom, "if it's that inconvenient, learn to do without!"
Also scary, in order to house all these people (but, hey, housing booms mean "jobs,jobs,jobs"), suburbia has infested our hillsides, farmlands and deserts, despite the known dangers of contaminated watersheds, and the current building craze on farmlands across the U.S. is making the lack of safe drinking water and safe, inexpensive foods a reality that is likely to occur in our lifetime, unless Americans drastically change their values very soon.
Time to start really reading those voting pamphlets, and doing some personal investigating into what our congresspeople are doing, and how it has affected our environment, whether good or bad. And definitely time
for our society to respect their elders and consider that all our deeds will affect our descendants yet to come.
post #10 of 20
I think that the size of the US's population is INSANE!!! and that the US is wrecking our environment the most...the US doesn't seem to care at all about the environment or conservation of resources and then when theirs are all gone I just forsee them expecting Canada to share theirs. I for one, do not want to share with the US. Maybe if the politicians and people cared enought to take care of their resources they'd still have some left so I have little to no sympathy. I think that many of the leaders may think that when it comes down to it, they could just take the resources and that worries me.
post #11 of 20
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Originally Posted by IloveSiamese View Post
I think that the size of the US's population is INSANE!!! and that the US is wrecking our environment the most...the US doesn't seem to care at all about the environment or conservation of resources and then when theirs are all gone I just forsee them expecting Canada to share theirs. I for one, do not want to share with the US. Maybe if the politicians and people cared enought to take care of their resources they'd still have some left so I have little to no sympathy. I think that many of the leaders may think that when it comes down to it, they could just take the resources and that worries me.
I have heard too many times that maybe we (the USA) should just take over Mexico, as it's in our backyard and does have oil.
post #12 of 20
The US's population growth, actually, is nothing compared to the poorest countries in the world. And we are by no means running out of room.

There is no shortage of space in America. It's a myth.

What there is is a shortage of decent affordable housing, health care, and employment equal to ability.
post #13 of 20
Good grief people, what are you complaining about? I live in a country of 30 + million people in an 300,000 sq. km. area. (186,000 sq.miles)
When I visit US I am always amazed at how empty most places are . And once a foreigner visitor commented that one never is alone in the Philippines - there are people everywhere.
post #14 of 20
Yea, but that is TERRIBLE! We are destroying our precious land and it makes me so sad. It's almost like the old ways of life are just a story. I know that my ancestors never would have never treated the land, which they considered a gift from their Creator, the way we do now and it makes me sad.

I just don't understand how we fool ourselves into believing we can treat the earth like this and keep doing it. Somethings going to have to give.
post #15 of 20
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Originally Posted by yayi View Post
Good grief people, what are you complaining about? I live in a country of 30 + million people in an 300,000 sq. km. area. (186,000 sq.miles)
When I visit US I am always amazed at how empty most places are . And once a foreigner visitor commented that one never is alone in the Philippines - there are people everywhere.
Good point, Maria! According to this 2005 list, the United States is in 172nd place as far as population density is concerned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density
post #16 of 20
I've read that the population of the entire planet could fit into Texas if the whole thing had the population density of parts of New York City.

You know, its very interesting though, most animals reach a certain population density and stop growing. Humans just develop more and more technology to cope with the strain they put on their environment.

We're the only animal that will cram more and more and more of us into a space until it causes psychological and health problems (more crime, more stress-related illness, more communicable diseases...)

We are growing exponentially, but as has been pointed out once a society is stable it nears zero population growth, as ours is. The problems occur in communities where people have a much higher mortality rate, and a much higher birth rate to match.

I'm not saying I disagree though. Here in the US, the way we live, each one of us uses as many resources and puts as much strain on our ecosystem as entire towns in other parts of the world.

What we need to do is quit being so greedy.
post #17 of 20
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Originally Posted by jcat View Post
Good point, Maria! According to this 2005 list, the United States is in 172nd place as far as population density is concerned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density
OMG! It's 80 million not 30!!!
post #18 of 20
the population doesnt....bother me so much as our greed on our resources if we respected those more we would all be much better.

And as someone who plans to have a baby sometime i think i should fully be allowed...not that i plan on having a gaggle like one member of my family (12 And yes i think thats insane)

i think we need to focus on being better at taking cae of our space. our planet our home.
post #19 of 20
Thread Starter 
I come from a family of farmers on both sides. Granted, my parents moved away from the farms (mainly because of family politics, but that's a whole 'nother thread!), but my father's career still focuses in that area of livestock that he grew up with. Earl comes from a small farming town, and was very active in the FFA (Future Farmers of America) in high school. I get so sad and disheartened every time we drive along the interstate that used to be nothing but farmland that is now overrun with commercial and residential developments. The commercial developments are just more malls, more car dealerships, more big box stores because apparently we can't possibly go farther than 2 miles to go shopping anymore. And the residential developments are all cookie-cutter, WAY too big and over-priced homes for people moving in to Colorado from over-populated and over-priced markets. What happens when we start having a problem producing enough food for not only ourselves, but for the rest of the world that relies on the World's Breadbasket that is the Midwest? Apparently the quick money is worth more than the future. That is a big reason why this milestone, and the rate at which we reached it, is so disconcerting to me.
post #20 of 20
I find the U.S.'s overuse of resources to be a bigger problem than its large population. I've been searching for some info about automobiles per capita, broken down by country, but haven't found anything. As Heidi said, many homes are way too big - just think of the energy used to heat/cool them. Why do consumer electronics all seem to be at permanent stand-by?
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