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Damita puking & hairball issues

post #1 of 21
10/2/06 at 2:25pm
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Damita has had quite a bit of trouble with hairballs. I have been dosing her with a variety of hairball meds trying to find one that will work. So far, no luck. Yesterday, she vomited up dry food awhile after eating. She did that twice yesterday. She vomited dry food again earlier this afternoon. I gave her some canned food, but she was not overly interested. There weren't any hairballs in the puke any of the 3 times. I haven't seen her puke up a hairball since Saturday morning.

I have been dosing her with her hairballs meds for 5 days now. The tube says to give her "this dose(I forgot the amt)" for 2-3 days, then lower the dose to a maintenance dose. She normally pukes up 1 hairball everyday(sometimes more).

What now? I've tried 6 different hairballs meds, & now I'm out of ideas. None of them worked. I feel bad for her having a hairball everday, but it makes sense to me as she grooms herself quite a bit & is always so clean & nice looking. She takes good care of herself.
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post #2 of 21
10/2/06 at 2:33pm
Is she long haired??? Do you brush her alot. This being fall-Grizzly can go on a puking hairball binge!! I give her a dab of vaseline which helps if I am consistant. Otherwise I let her go a day without food (per my vet) to calm her tummy down. I then boil up a chix breast and cool and feed to her. I've done this twice in the past year or two and it helps her.
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post #3 of 21
10/2/06 at 2:36pm
I mix extra virgin olive oil in everyone's food once a week.
I haven't seen a hairball in forever.
Only occasional vomit, but that's all Shadow, sometimes he just eats too fast.
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post #4 of 21
10/2/06 at 2:56pm
NO laughing as I should know this ... but what food or foods is she on>??? any other pertitant feeding issues??
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post #5 of 21
10/2/06 at 3:19pm
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Ahhh...she's been on several different foods. She was on MAX Cat hairball about a month ago, but gave her stool issues. She has been on Solid Gold Katz-N-Flocken since then. I have been mixing in a little Felidae, but she flat out refuses to eat ANY food if the Felidae is mixed in. So, basically Katz-N-Flocken. Forgot to add Iams Chicken or Beef canned 2x a day....about 2-3 oz a day.

She has had problems with loose bloody stools before, gets them from MAx cat hairball & chicken soup.

She is short-ahired but she has very "thick" hair. She gets brushed with a slicker brush & the Shed Ender daily.
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post #6 of 21
10/2/06 at 3:59pm
sounds like she might have a food allergy. i would suggest getting an allergy food like hills z/d or royal canin allergy formula. leave her on it for a month and see if there is any difference. if you notice a difference right away you will know if not it may take a couple weeks before you will notice but then you can work on an elmination diet and narrow down what she's allergic to. or get an allergy testing done at your vets. also your vets can give you some liquid paraphen to give her for the hair balls if thats the case.
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post #7 of 21
10/2/06 at 4:31pm
I would think allergy ... Try avoiding chicken and rice ... as all the foods have both .... Natural balence makes a great venison formula ( yes I know you have issues with local avail...
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post #8 of 21
10/2/06 at 4:32pm
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Originally Posted by ocicat_steph View Post
sounds like she might have a food allergy. i would suggest getting an allergy food like hills z/d or royal canin allergy formula. leave her on it for a month and see if there is any difference. if you notice a difference right away you will know if not it may take a couple weeks before you will notice but then you can work on an elmination diet and narrow down what she's allergic to. or get an allergy testing done at your vets. also your vets can give you some liquid paraphen to give her for the hair balls if thats the case.

Yeah I agree, plus I don't know how much this could help... but i've been told feeindg them grass.. the grass made for cats!? can help their digestive system and also might help with the hairball issue...


good luck
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post #9 of 21
10/2/06 at 4:44pm
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Yeah I agree, plus I don't know how much this could help... but i've been told feeindg them grass.. the grass made for cats!? can help their digestive system and also might help with the hairball issue...


good luck
it won't help if the cat has an allergy to the food though we just went through this whole process with our lil one.
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post #10 of 21
10/2/06 at 8:33pm
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Crimeny! Damita is my long-term foster cat.....so any vet stuff is out of the question(unless it's an emergency, which a food allergy will not be considered).

I guess I'll look into ordering Natural Balance venison..... Jennifer, would the Natural Balance venison be safe for Ophelia who had struvite crystals?
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post #11 of 21
10/2/06 at 8:55pm
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Originally Posted by Arlyn View Post
I mix extra virgin olive oil in everyone's food once a week.
I haven't seen a hairball in forever.
Only occasional vomit, but that's all Shadow, sometimes he just eats too fast.

hmmm really?
Im gonna try it. every now and then mikey leaves me a little surprise on the carpet...I bet that might help.

thanx!
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post #12 of 21
10/2/06 at 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Crimeny! Damita is my long-term foster cat.....so any vet stuff is out of the question(unless it's an emergency, which a food allergy will not be considered).

I guess I'll look into ordering Natural Balance venison..... Jennifer, would the Natural Balance venison be safe for Ophelia who had struvite crystals?
Not exactly .... Pm me I will explain in detail
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post #13 of 21
10/3/06 at 5:24am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
Crimeny! Damita is my long-term foster cat.....so any vet stuff is out of the question(unless it's an emergency, which a food allergy will not be considered).

I guess I'll look into ordering Natural Balance venison..... Jennifer, would the Natural Balance venison be safe for Ophelia who had struvite crystals?
you can buy the Royal Canin Hypoallergenic from here with out going to a vets. http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/s...ite=DDI%20link


hope this helps. be very careful with the natural balance if he's having struvite crystals as well. i really would recommend the Royal Canin.
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post #14 of 21
10/3/06 at 8:20am
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Originally Posted by ocicat_steph View Post
you can buy the Royal Canin Hypoallergenic from here with out going to a vets. http://www.nationalpetpharmacy.com/s...ite=DDI%20link


hope this helps. be very careful with the natural balance if he's having struvite crystals as well. i really would recommend the Royal Canin.
I really do not feel that Royal Canin is a high quality food. I was less than impressed with the formulas I saw, so I prefer not to feed it. I didn't see any ingredients listed....so I'll have to look around.

Damita puked this am(thankfully on the linoleum!). I cleaned it up & saw there was a hairball in there. I was getting worried that maybe she had a hairball blocking her intestines(I'm rahter paranoid this morning..).

I have to take one of the dogs to the vet tomorrow, so I will ask them what they think & what he reccomends for food(you know, Iams, Science Diet, & Eukanuba being high quality ). I just can't see paying a small fortune for allergy SD when I could buy some good food that will work the same!
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post #15 of 21
10/3/06 at 9:00am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I really do not feel that Royal Canin is a high quality food. I was less than impressed with the formulas I saw, so I prefer not to feed it. I didn't see any ingredients listed....so I'll have to look around.

Damita puked this am(thankfully on the linoleum!). I cleaned it up & saw there was a hairball in there. I was getting worried that maybe she had a hairball blocking her intestines(I'm rahter paranoid this morning..).

I have to take one of the dogs to the vet tomorrow, so I will ask them what they think & what he reccomends for food(you know, Iams, Science Diet, & Eukanuba being high quality ). I just can't see paying a small fortune for allergy SD when I could buy some good food that will work the same!
i think i would be willing to try anything if i really was worried about the health of my cat. but thats your opinion. Royal Canin is well known all over the US/Canada/UK as a very healthy food. it's a prescription diet for most places and the ingredience are listed on the website here http://www.royalcanin.us/vetdiet/fel...llergenic.html

its a pre digested diet so it doesn't set off the allergies. Science diet also makes a food for allergies called K/D not sure where you can get it on the internet though. your vet should be happy to supply it for you or write a prescription for you to pick it up at another retailer. i wouldn't recommend Iams or Eukanuba for a cat with struvite or kidney problems. We have numerous cases coming into our vets that are on the Iams diet and they have regular UTI's and kidney problems as well as dental issues.
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post #16 of 21
10/3/06 at 9:27am
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So, what's the difference between Royal Canin's Hypoallergenic & their Sensitivity Control?
http://www.royalcanin.com/produits/gb_chien_cansec.asp

I PM'ed you also steph. I hadn't yet checked ingredients in RC Rx you suggested. I am now seeing that it is corn free(I couldn't find an ingredients list elsewhere), so would sit well with my "corn man". The price of the RC on the websit eyou listed is the same as the natural balance. I will ask the vet tomorrow if he will write me an Rx for it, I guess it's worth a try! I will also call them to see what the ash, magnesium, etc levels are to see if its OK to feed Ophelia.
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post #17 of 21
10/3/06 at 9:38am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
So, what's the difference between Royal Canin's Hypoallergenic & their Sensitivity Control?
http://www.royalcanin.com/produits/gb_chien_cansec.asp

I PM'ed you also steph. I hadn't yet checked ingredients in RC Rx you suggested. I am now seeing that it is corn free(I couldn't find an ingredients list elsewhere), so would sit well with my "corn man". The price of the RC on the websit eyou listed is the same as the natural balance. I will ask the vet tomorrow if he will write me an Rx for it, I guess it's worth a try! I will also call them to see what the ash, magnesium, etc levels are to see if its OK to feed Ophelia.
The difference is that the Hypo has been lab predigested and that any ingredients are so small in molecule level that they don't set off allergies or belly problems. but the sensitivity has been formulated for gastrointestinal problems and IBS(irritable bowels) not for allergy prone cats. the case with your vomiting cat seems more like an allergy with combined symptoms you have listed not a gastro problem so i would go with the Hypo.

good to hear not sure about the ash and mag levels though we have had no complaints from out allergy/crystal prone owners. so i would have though it would be find for Ophelia. They also carry a lovely Urinary plan two types i believe wet and dry. there is also wet and dry with the sensitivity but it does contain corn (if you are sure that is what is cause the problems with your 'corn man' through allergy testing) i wouldn't recommend that, but if you have only figured this out thru elemination i would try a sample and see if it affects him it's just the corn gluten in it and it does wonders for sensitive bellies. i think the website i listed previously that sells it with out a Rx but i'm not sure. if not i'm sure your vet would be willing to do so for the sake of your kitties.
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post #18 of 21
10/3/06 at 9:45am
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I called RC & asked about the ash & magnesium levels. Ash is 7% & magnesium is .05%.
That should be find for Ophelia!
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post #19 of 21
10/3/06 at 9:51am
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Originally Posted by white cat lover View Post
I called RC & asked about the ash & magnesium levels. Ash is 7% & magnesium is .05%.
That should be find for Ophelia!
excellent!! i really hope this all works out for you doll please keep me informed!
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post #20 of 21
10/3/06 at 10:27am
RC RXs are originally Waltham formulas and they for RXs have decent ingrediants .... I cant seem to access the site but I am having a "dumb blond" type day
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post #21 of 21
10/3/06 at 2:07pm
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RC RXs are originally Waltham formulas and they for RXs have decent ingrediants .... I cant seem to access the site but I am having a "dumb blond" type day
the ingredients are listed in the websites links i posted above. at www.royalcanin.us or if you are in the UK you can go to www.royalcanin.com and select your country for more info.
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