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thank you, its good to not feel like I'm alone and trying to understand the mental side of a scared cat thoughts. I'm going to check out the link shortly. Charlie and Louie are doing alittle better, and my daughter had Louie on her lap today without touching him and he stayed for a few minutes...

Thanks, I should have mentioned that we can hold them, if they are on their cat condo they let us pick them up. I would say that they are semi feral. We can be in the same room and they eat, use the litter box and play with themselves. I think they feed off each other as far as fear. How do we...

I hope someone can help! we adopted them about a month ago, they have been improving but are still afraid of people that visit. today they were hiding longer than usual. so, I took them out of hiding and now they are petrified. did I really screw up? I gave the bachs rescue remedy after for the...