Persian kitty question

[carolinalima]

She is gorgeous!!!
I don't think she is a "doll-faced", or long nosed... I see a regular flat faced Persian in her - maybe not as extreme, but she definitely has the Persian face with the short nose and all IMHO.

[WellingtonCats]

Originally Posted by GoldenKitty45

She would be a "pet quality" Persian with the longer nose. I really hate the term "doll-faced" - some market pet Persians as that so they can get high prices - its not the standard for the Persian, but not all Persians will have the extreme face for the show ring. There are pet quality Persians born in reputable breeders cats.

Martice reads my mind.

Here are two of my babies to compare:

Just to confuse you - here's a Blue Silver



Blue Tabby (no silver)



Silver Tabby (Black)



Blue Cream Silver (the whole works!!!)



Another Blue Silver (& me)



Blue



Blue Tabby & White (again no silver)



Sorry for everyone else who has seen these photos before. Just a selection of our 2008 babies for you. Plenty more blue/silver/gray etc to show you if you like.

[GoldenKitty45]

Never heard of blue-silver till I saw it in the Maine Coon classes And in the Ocicats we have Blue-Silver so I can see the difference now.

[missymotus]

Originally Posted by WellingtonCats

Sorry for everyone else who has seen these photos before.

Don't think anyone's complaining Sam

[filfilksq]

Thanks for the pictures -- those kittens are so beautiful!

So the cream color will only come with blues, or are there also black and cream (with or without silver)?

When you breed them, are you able to reliably predict what you will have in a litter? I mean, if you breed a blue and cream with a blue and cream, will the kittens all be blue and cream? Or if you mix and have, say, a black silver with an all-blue, is there any way to predict what the litter will look like?

Just curious, and thanks again for everyone's input!

Kate

[FerrisCat]

Not sure if anyone has ever bred two blue creams together--nearly all blue creams are females, and the males are typically sterile!

There are ways to predict what colors you will get in a litter, but you need a working knowledge of the genetics behind cat coat color inheritance. Certain traits are dominant, such as tabby and silver(inhibitor.) Other traits are recessive, such as solid and dilute, so you also need to know what recessive colors your cat might be carring.

Some colors are sex-linked. Red is carried on the x-chromosome. Female cats are XX, so a tortie (or blue cream) has a copy of red on one x-chromosome and a copy of black on the other x-chromosome. Fertile male cats (XY) have only one x-chromosome, so they are either red or black. If they are tortie, they are either XXY or chimeras--in which case they can't reproduce or they can only reproduce as a red or a black.

[GoldenKitty45]

Blue-Cream cats are almost always female. If you find a male - he would only gentically be a blue or a cream - he would not throw either color.

You can't have "black & cream" as cream is the dilute of red as blue is the dilute of black. So you can have a tortie (black & red). Again, if you have a tortie male, he's genetically a black or a red; not both colors.

Basic genetics:

Blue x blue-cream - you would get solid blues and blue-creams
Cream x blue-cream - solid creams and blue creams