I'm trying to save on heating bills; so my house is about 60-65 degrees Fahrenheit most of the time. (15 degrees C.) I bundle up in a sweater; but I see the cats sit on fluffy things, tuck their paws in, and bunch up. I know this is a reaction to the cold; but is this their version of putting on a coat, or their version of saying, "I'm uncomfortable; turn the heat up"?

Weirdly enough, the cause of my economizing is the cats' vet bills... both cats ended up having to be rid of every parasite in the book, plus Tiny's neutering, plus Baby's ears! My mom used to turn the heat down all the time--I remember it being 50 degrees indoors--and we had a cat then, but I guess I didn't think about the cat...

Uh... so. Basically, is this a good idea? Or am I making my cats miserable?

In Canada we kept our house at 15c all winter, the cats were always fine. We had plenty of boxes/beds/rugs etc. for them to curl up on.

I see the cats sit on fluffy things, tuck their paws in, and bunch up.

My cats do that too, and it's not cold here :lol3: My sisters boy Sylvester almost always tucks his paws in, his nickname is legless kitty.

No, actually when cats do that, they're just doing their meatloaf impersonations. Seriously, though, cats are heat-seeking beasties so I provide lots of soft, warm "throws" on beds and such, for them to curl up in. That way, we're all happy.

I'd keep it at a minimum of 65. We keep ours 68-70 and the heating bills are not high.

Its gotten chilly here too, but I was sure to put some nice fleece blankets on the couches & beds & one in each of their 3 kitty beds (yeah, they have 3 beds, for 2 cats :lol3: ). That way they are nice and cozy :heart2: & if they aren't cold- they lay on the cold floor :lol3: I just like to be sure :)

We haven't turned on your heat yet-its 62F in the house. The cats don't seem to mind (of course they are indoor/outdoor cats but now that the temps have finally turned cooler they want to be inside at night!!

As with the others they seem to like to sleep on my down throws on the sofa or find a sunny spot in the morning!!

I keep my place around 60-62 while I'm at work and at night. Always have and have never had any trouble with my cats!

Since they can't really tell you where you understand how they personally feel I would say at least provide one heated cat bed that is always on so if they are cold they can get warmer. Lots of soft large blankets for them too... That would make me feel better about it at least.

But Jazz, you have PERSIANS......:lol3:

How about getting a heat pad for the cats? I used to leave some heating on during the winter for the cats, not because it was necessary (it never gets really cold in my flat) but because Jaffa loves the heat and has a very thin coat. But now I just put a hot water bottle on the bed in a nice fluffy cover (not too hot in case they puncture it) plus a heat pad (keeps it's heat longer than the hot water bottle) so that he has something warm to snuggle up to if he's cold.

Last winter John and I and our animals were living in a camper while the house was being built. We had two electric heaters, but it still never got any higher than 60-63 degrees in there. The kitties did just fine. I just made sure that there were a few extra blankets laying around for them, and at night they all just curled up in bed with us to keep warm. On the coldest days I did put out a heating pad so they could lay on that if they wanted to.

i would not go below 65 because kitty could get cold keep some blankets and soft pillows around and kitty will find a warm spot also maybe keep a blind open where the sun comes in during the day and make a spot near there for kitty to get some heat

But Jazz, you have PERSIANS......:lol3:

True enough! All cats have fur coats though. Excepting special breed. ;) I suppose even though cats are naturally outdoor animals, domestication may have rendered them a bit less equiped to handle cold. I just don't figure 60 or more to be cold. Espcially if they have a blanket and/or bed to curl up in. The heating pad seems like an ok option. As long as you know your cat won't chew on the electric cord. I guess I would ask your vet if cats can tolerate keeping the heat down to that level. :nod: Anyone out there ever asked a vet this question?

Might be a slight problem if one has an older arthritic cat or dog.

The better question is, how can you people stand to have it that cold? I would be very achy, DH would be sick (it messes with his asthma if he gets cold in his sleep), and my reptiles would be in a rather dire situation. Our cats would be the only ones not to be really bothered by it. :lol3:

Unless they are shivering, they are probably fine. Depends too on if they are long hair or short hair kitties and what type of retreats you have set up to help them stay warm. Cardboard boxes with lots of soft bedding work just fine, thermal cat beds are best because they only heat up when the cat is actually lying on them. Human type heating pads are a bad idea because their heat isn't even like a pet heating pad would be. Plus pet heating pads draw less current and are more energy efficient.

i was gonna say, those pet pads that keep the body heat of the pet to help them warm up are best. i keep my house at 60-65, and no one complains,lol

Yeah, they do snuggle with me at night--one or the other is usually curled up in the little spot between my ankles, and another one next to my pillow :)

I have two blankets on each of their window perches; Baby sleeps on the towels on the towel shelf (I always keep 'her' towel on top); and of course they are welcome to use my bed if they like. The window perches are really just big plastic boxes stacked up to the window; but they serve the same function (and work as storage space)... the sun comes in the window and when I pet them their coats are warm.

They are still doing the meatloaf thing, though! Baby curls up into a little ball a lot... she has the cutest habit of curling her tail round her paws, then sticking her nose under one paw... I don't know HOW she can be comfortable that way!

I have a space heater on now when it gets below about 65.Main heat's still off.

They're both young adults, in their second year. So no arthritis here. :) If I had an older cat, I'd have got a heated bed already; but these youngsters seem to think my house is a racetrack and the best place in the world to sleep is on a bunch of towels!

They're both young adults, in their second year. So no arthritis here. :) If I had an older cat, I'd have got a heated bed already...!

Why not get them a bed anyway, just in case they want it? At least they would have a choice...

Money issues--cat beds are expensive, and mine sleep on piles of blankets instead. But if I find one at an affordable price, I'll probably get it.

Cats are little heat generators who have a much higher body temperature than humans. Due to their size, and the amount of heat they generate, if they have something insulated (a blanket, throw, etc.) to curl up in, they'll be absolutely fine. Last year during a several day power outage during freezing weather, most of use spent the time in our daylight basement curled up next to the gas fireplace. However, Eliza, not yet used to the new kitties, chose to stay upstairs where the temperature actually dropped to the mid-40s, but she was toasty warm because she crawled into our bed and got under the down comfortor. If you stuck your hand in there with her, you could literally feel the heat generated by her little 10 lb body! They're amazingly good at keeping warm so dont' worry about it.

Due to their size, and the amount of heat they generate, if they have something insulated (a blanket, throw, etc.) to curl up in, they'll be absolutely fine. They're amazingly good at keeping warm so dont' worry about it.

this is not true of all cats. Especially of my pink Sphynx kitty.

I can relate to the vet bill for Baby's ears!

this is not true of all cats. Especially of my pink Sphynx kitty.


Understandable for a Sphynx kitty! Have you posted pics lately? I'm going to go search right now! :happy2:

Mine are both DSH kitties with decent undercoats. So I'd say they're worse off than longhairs, but pretty good for shorthairs.

Well, I'm using the space heater now. We're at 70 degrees during the day; at night, 60-65. But at night, we snuggle in the bed anyway :)

I'm pretty sure the cats are OK now. And Baby--the smaller, and the one I was more worried about--has learned to find patches of sun, which warm her dark fur quite quickly.

Am interviewing for heating assistance later this month. If I get it, we shall all be toasty!

Good luck with the assistance! I hope it works out for you. I'd be a bit leary about using space heaters. They cost more to operate then a regular furnace.

We lower our heat during the day as well but Bijou and Mika curl up together either on our daughter's down comforter or they paw the top quilt down on our bed and slide in under. I know this because I make our bed every morning and at night there is always a tell-tale tunnel under the top quilt. :)

Stimpy is my only cat who would be ok with temperatures that low. That is because he's -um- "well insulated":blush: And he has a thicker coat. Raven and Nabu would *not* be pleased with temperatures that low. If I had to keep our place that cold, I'd have to get Raven and Nabu heated beds. They don't do well when it's really cold (below 78* is cold to them:lol3:). :cold: They don't have a thick coat like Stimpy does.

We usually let it go to 68* at the coldest. That's because *I* get cold below that. DH doesn't like me wearing a parka in the house.:lol3:

Edited to add: when it's cold Raven & Nabu also cuddle up to Stimpy for warmth.:lovegrin:

Well, I've pretty much got no choice now--I just lost my job.

Pray I find another... these cats haven't got anybody but me to take care of them.

At my last house, the floor temperature was about 55 degrees and the cats sat on the floor. 60 is not cold for a cat.

Well, I've pretty much got no choice now--I just lost my job.

Pray I find another... these cats haven't got anybody but me to take care of them.

OMG! I'm so sorry! I hope you find something quick!

My kitties sleep on newspaper when its cold, apparently it retains the warmth to ages. Even if they have blankies in their beds, they still go for the newspaper.

Well, I've pretty much got no choice now--I just lost my job.

Pray I find another... these cats haven't got anybody but me to take care of them.
I'm so sorry.:hugs: I hope you find something soon.

I'm sure the cats would be ok. Raven & Nabu tend to be overly dramatic anyway. I know they'd be fine if we *had* to keep it that cool. They have plenty of cuddler beds and Stimpy to keep them warm. Stimpy really does have a thicker coat than they do.

You just might notice your kitties eating a little more. My guys always seem hungrier when the weather cools.:nod: The couple of nights the apartment got down to 65* they ate every last scrap of their food by morning. I think it was just above 30* outside.

Hmm. I think I will give them an extra bit of food, just in case... It does take more energy to stay warm. They've been begging, of course; but since they're normal weight I never thought much about it! I'll see if they start leaving food in their bowls; if they do, I guess they didn't need it after all.

The weather's a bit warmer now--60s. And I've rolled up some rugs and put them in all the door cracks. So during the night it's not nearly as cold now. I'm sitting in my short-sleeved PJs and am quite comfortable. :) Also, I've gone on a diet--the restricted calorie intake saves me a little money on food. And I need to lose weight anyhow.

I've gotten in touch with a temp service. If they can find me at least some temporary work, that'll be better than nothing. I officially hate being unemployed... I mean, you think it'd be nice to have all that leisure time; but not when you're worried about stuff.

Tiny just headbutted me... what a sweetheart! Even if he does like to pounce my feet.

I keep my house at 68 and I still find it cold. I have a fleece throw for them on the sofa as well as a large self heating pad on their bed and a condo tent with nice warm pads too. I know during the winter they like to sleep under my blanket with their heads peeping out. It's really funny and cute!!